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Offline caeli34

Marriage vows and domestic abuse
« on: July 16, 2022, 11:21:48 AM »
If this has been covered elsewhere or there’s an official SSPX view…please point me in the right direction and delete this post.

Given the marriage vows, what  level (if any?) of domestic abuse is considered grounds for an annulment?  Is it generally advised by SSPX priests to separate indefinitely if need be instead?  What if a priest advises a woman to stay and her and her children are injured or killed by the husband?  

For the first time since finding the truth in the SSPX I find my commitment to them a little wavering.  A solid SSPX priest who we deeply respect told a woman she needed to stay with her physically abusive husband.  He tried to kill her.  I know the modern church gives out annulments like their lollipops but I also can’t understand this priests advice knowing her life was in danger.  And yes, I am fully aware I’m only getting part of the whole story.  Just trying to understand where the line is in respect to church teaching and tradition.  This woman sadly left the SSPX because of it.  
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Offline Mike Henderson

Re: Marriage vows and domestic abuse
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2022, 11:41:07 AM »
Looking after her own safety would not objectively violate obedience. If your description is accurate, then charity and the danger of calumny would oblige the woman, rather than airing her conversation publicly, to discuss the matter with the priest's prior, and if that does not avail, with the District House.
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Offline SimpleMan

Re: Marriage vows and domestic abuse
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2022, 11:53:37 AM »
Quote from: caeli34 on July 16, 2022, 11:21:48 AM
If this has been covered elsewhere or there’s an official SSPX view…please point me in the right direction and delete this post.

Given the marriage vows, what  level (if any?) of domestic abuse is considered grounds for an annulment?  Is it generally advised by SSPX priests to separate indefinitely if need be instead?  What if a priest advises a woman to stay and her and her children are injured or killed by the husband? 

For the first time since finding the truth in the SSPX I find my commitment to them a little wavering.  A solid SSPX priest who we deeply respect told a woman she needed to stay with her physically abusive husband.  He tried to kill her.  I know the modern church gives out annulments like their lollipops but I also can’t understand this priests advice knowing her life was in danger.  And yes, I am fully aware I’m only getting part of the whole story.  Just trying to understand where the line is in respect to church teaching and tradition.  This woman sadly left the SSPX because of it. 

If it is a valid marriage, no level of domestic abuse, all by itself, would be grounds for an annulment.  Separation and leaving the abusive home (and taking the children), yes, nobody has to stay in a dangerous situation, but that is not the same as the marriage being invalid.
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Offline forlorn

Re: Marriage vows and domestic abuse
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2022, 01:07:59 PM »
The priest being wrong in his judgement about whether or not she should leave has nothing to do with annulment. Separation and annulment are entirely separate things.
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Offline Miseremini

Re: Marriage vows and domestic abuse
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2022, 02:42:24 PM »
If she has children she is OBLIGATED to protect them from the abuse.
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