Author Topic: Luminous Mysteries (Read 4560 times)

Vladimir · « **Reply #5 on:** April 15, 2010, 11:44:53 PM »

Well, the Blessed Virgin was not present at the Agony in the Garden either, although I think (not sure) that Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich says that the Blessed Mother shared in the pains of Christ during that time in spirit, even though she was not there in person.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #6 on:** April 16, 2010, 12:20:33 PM »

In the Gospel, there were 153 fish in the nets pulled up by the Apostles after they had fished all night, catching nothing. When you include the three Hail Marys said before the 15 decades, the total is...153. While fascination with numbers can certainly cross over into the superstitious, they are not without meaning -- especially when mentioned under such circuмstances within Holy Writ.

In an age when very few pray five, much less fifteen, decades on a daily basis, does it even make practical sense to ADD five more decades? Forgetting the hubris involved in adding to that which was given by our Lady herself, does it make ANY sense to make this devotion "bigger" or "longer", and in an age that is decidedly addicted to external activity? In a word, NO.

Cristian · « **Reply #7 on:** April 20, 2010, 03:09:58 PM »

I was told that the intention of JPII was ecuмenical, and that´s the reason SSPX doesn´t pray the LM.

Cristian

Cristian · « **Reply #8 on:** April 20, 2010, 03:19:21 PM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

In the Gospel, there were 153 fish in the nets pulled up by the Apostles after they had fished all night, catching nothing. When you include the three Hail Marys said before the 15 decades, the total is...153. While fascination with numbers can certainly cross over into the superstitious, they are not without meaning -- especially when mentioned under such circuмstances within Holy Writ.

In an age when very few pray five, much less fifteen, decades on a daily basis, does it even make practical sense to ADD five more decades? Forgetting the hubris involved in adding to that which was given by our Lady herself, does it make ANY sense to make this devotion "bigger" or "longer", and in an age that is decidedly addicted to external activity? In a word, NO.

Saint Cyrille of Jerusalem said Our Lord told the Apostles to count them because Jews knew (or at least believed so) there were 153 species of fishes, and so with this miracle He was saying to them in a quite symbolic manner that they "fishers of men" had to preach and try every kind of man to enter into the nets of the Church. I think this is quite beautifull.

Cristian

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #9 on:** April 20, 2010, 04:36:04 PM »

That is beautiful, Cristian. Thank you :)

Btw, why would the SSPX even begin to presume JP2's intentions (which he never clearly expressed, as far as I know)?