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Offline Matthew

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Looking for consolation in prayer?
« on: September 28, 2008, 09:21:18 PM »
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  • There are certain souls who are always looking for consolation in prayer; this is a delusion of the Devil, who simply wishes to bring about their destruction.

        St. Alphonusus Liguori (1696-1787AD) on Spiritual Consolations
        Mini-Bio: Italian; bishop, Doctor of the Church, founder and first superior of the Redemptorists
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    Looking for consolation in prayer?
    « Reply #1 on: September 29, 2008, 10:16:35 AM »
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  • Yes... Much better to mature the Faith through an unwavering devotion of the mind than to leave one's soul all at sea, to be tossed about by the fickle and violent waves of the heart.

    Or to very roughly paraphrase the words of a wise bishop:

    He said (roughly) Sometimes God gives us consolations, like candy... But ... 'When you were a child you thought as a child, and acted like a child, (etc.) ... and I gave you candy... (God could say) but you're not a child anymore and I'm not going to give you any more candy!'

    Well, too many of us who are no longer 8 years old, are still looking for "candy," when we should have done at least some growing up spiritually. If faith depends upon "candy" it's not really faith, is it? That which you are trying to have faith in, is being proven by something like a tangible reward. But the real test of faith is what happens in our minds and in our hearts when, as grown ups, God doesn't any longer (or at least not nearly as often) give us any spiritual "candy."

    Rather, we have to have a faith that walks through darkness, through the times when there is no sensible sign of God with us, and through the worst of times, unwavering, and be as thankful to God and as much at peace in Him during those times, as during the height of our consolations.


    Thanks for posting about this. Always something good for us to keep in mind, especially during hard trials. Real faith is something far more than feelings, and certainly cannot depend on them, but is constant not only in spite of feelings, but even in spite of all purely human appearances of our circuмstances... believing in and having peace in God when everything looks, by all appearances, purely black and desolate, knowing that God's hand orders ALL things, and in ALL times. Sometimes ESPECIALLY by trails and crosses.

    And just as real candy kills the body and makes it ill in excess, spiritual candy in excess can rather rot out real faith and make the soul lethargic.
    I renounce any and all of my former views against what the Church through Pope Leo XIII said, "This, then, is the teaching of the Catholic Church ...no one of the several forms of government is in itself condemned, inasmuch as none of them contains anythi


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    Looking for consolation in prayer?
    « Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 02:13:10 AM »
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  • The Charismatic Catholics are always looking for "candy" - their whole faith is built on it.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 06:43:44 PM »
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  • A friend of mine who converted from protestantism said that even though intellectually she understands the faith, she still misses the "personal God" of Protestantism.  I suppose that she meant the "candy."   Certainly the faith is no easy thing when one has hardships, especially when one does not know or relate in any way to Blessed Mother and the Saints, as is the case with her.  So if whoever reads wouldn't mind offering up a little Hail Mary for her that she receive some sort of grace from God to understand I would appreciate it.  And thanks for the book recommendation - it sounds like it would be an interesting read on the subject.

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    « Reply #4 on: March 08, 2009, 12:36:40 PM »
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  • true.but every living creature naturaly seeks joy and sweetness.those living in the world have so many lawful joys.where should monk or a hermit look for consolation and sweetness if not in prayer?
    in a wife?No
    in a child?No
    in his relatives?No
    in eating a delicious food?No
    in watching a favorite movie?No
    in buying/wearing beautiful clothes?No
    in sports and hunting?No
    then where should he seek it if not in prayer???????


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    « Reply #5 on: March 08, 2009, 12:38:36 PM »
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  • my post was directed to St.John Bosco.not to the one who posted just before me.

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    « Reply #6 on: March 08, 2009, 12:41:58 PM »
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  • Mike Jay remember that st.Augustine says that nobody loves suffering since nobody tolerates what he loves.
    suffering is a bitterness that we patiently bear for the love of God! :wink: :smile: