Author Topic: Jesus words at Easter to Maria Valtorta (Read 29257 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #35 on:** April 08, 2015, 01:19:31 PM »

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So what? It means only that Pope Pius XII, Bishop Williamson and Archbishop Lefebvre were in error on this specific issue.

Well, of course they were. How silly of me not to realize immediately that the collective wisdom of faceless Cathinfo Illuminati must trump the positive affirmations of the better known three. :roll-laugh2:

Idiot.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #36 on:** April 08, 2015, 01:25:47 PM »

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No one can possibly read the excerpts that Nadir posted below and still promote this filth, or believe that our Savior speaks and acts thus.

The 'shining lights' on Cathinfo' imply that Bp. Williamson, Pius XII and Abp. Marcel Lefebvre promoted this "filth." Because to date, no one has come forward with proof that they didn't. H.E., the Archbishop, and the last of the pre-Conciliar popes apparently liked what Valtorta wrote. But PerE, Nadir, Ladislaus and other loquacious trad experts say terrible things about the poor woman. I'm so confused! Not really though.. just somewhat amused.

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I'm certainly no 'shining light', but I am surprised at this entire argument, H.
I understand your penchant for humor, so perhaps this is some kind of joke? I'm not being sarcastic, just trying to make sense of your odd reasoning. This seems to be all about the non infallible thoughts of 3 people (holy people, yes, but...) vs.
1. Condemnation of the Holy Office (which supercedes the private opinions of the 3 cited)
2. Your own (what I thought was well developed) Sensus Catholicus - have you read just some of the excerpts? That should be enough for you.

Honestly, I don't understand this whole rigamarole on your part. Is it pride driven, because now it's difficult to walk back insults and mockery of other good Catholics here because they have read this awful work and align with the Church in condemnation? It appears that you are very much enjoying that.

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #37 on:** April 08, 2015, 01:42:40 PM »

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It is insanely presumptuous for someone to howl like a possessed madman about imaginary "filth" in such a work under these circuмstances. The lack of respect is appalling, and suggests TROLLING.

1. You obviously have not read it and the innumerable dissections of the work and this woman's mental condition, or you could not possibly defend it or insult those of us who have. The 'lack of respect' is, ironically, your ignorance causing grave insult to Our Lord and His holy Mother.

2. You use modernist approval to support it, along with citing Divine Mercy garbage. That says it all and where your mindset is. I'm curious why are you on a traditional forum?

hollingsworth · « **Reply #38 on:** April 08, 2015, 01:45:12 PM »

I find it very difficult to believe that you wordy trads, most of whom, I believe, are now, apparently, somewhat aligned with Bp. Williamson and the newest bishop, Bp. Faure, can continue to trust and follow these two honored clerics. Because Bp. Williamson does not only recommend her writings highly, he encourages folks to reread her works over an over again. You are the same 'shining ones' who went off on the "seer," when H.E. spoke positively and affirmatively of her visions in a fairly recent EC. It appears now, that whenever these "resistance" bishops say anything of potential substance in the future, we'll have to check back with a bevy of all-knowing Cathinfo trads, to see if their Episcopal declarations pass muster. Some of you, IMO, are turning into a joke. :stare:

PerEvangelicaDicta · « **Reply #39 on:** April 08, 2015, 01:57:51 PM »

Please can you address my questions and 2 points?
Your last comment underscores my thought that this is more about jabbing forum members than anything else.