Since this book was on the Index, it is furthermore YOUR burden of proof to docuмent from primary sources, not anecdotal stories, the endorsement of these esteemed clerics.  Bishop Williamson's opinion has been self-docuмented.  What of the others?  There are 10,000 people who claim apocryphal endorsements from Padre Pio, and 9,999 are made up.

Words of Jesus to Maria Valtorta, excerpted from Notebooks, April 9, 1944:

“The Father is weary, and to cause the human race to perish He will let the punishments of Hell be unleashed.”…..

So the Father is "weary"?  And the Father will "cause the human race to perish"?  That's contrary to Catholics Tradition concerning The Last Things.

“I would like to come a second time to die to save them from an even more atrocious death… but the Father does not allow this… He knows it would be useless… Oh, if only men were still able to turn to Me, who am salvation!”…

So the will of Jesus and the Father are not completely in line, with the Two having differing opinions on the matter?  And was not the Passion of Our Lord of INFINITE value so that there would be no need whatsoever for Him to do it again?

Reminding Maria of a Dictation from June 5, 1943: “You would like Me to appear and show Myself…But, even if I showed Myself, where is that residue of faith and respect in hearts which would make them bend with their faces to the ground to ask Me for forgiveness and mercy?”…

Just weird imagery here:  "residue of faith and respect in hearts" (what does that mean?) and "bend with their faces to the ground to ask Me for forgiveness"?  That's an extremely weird contorted body posture.

“I repeat what I have said a thousand times- the great sinners exist because the mass is all more or less guilty of the same sins as they are…”

So "the mass is all more or less guilty"?  What is this "mass"?

"Nothing is impossible for Me as God,  But it is the hour of the power of Darkness.  And men have spontaneously wanted it.  The kingdom of Evil is already established.  Anything I were to do would be rendered null by man’s will.  Any Good would be destroyed by Evil...

How can anything Our Lord could do be "rendered null" and "good destroyed by evil"?

“I impotently witness all humanity’s race towards spiritual death.

Jesus impotent?

There is no gift, benefit, call, or punishment by Me that will serve to arrest this spontaneous shipwreck in Satan of mankind, redeemed by Me.  Like an enraged bull, humanity is demolishing everything: reason, morality, and faith, and it is heading for a crash against what slays it.  The profaning hand of man rises up for a new crime which does not deserve forgiveness.

Stupid banal imagery and metaphor.

And the Father does not want to forgive.

You're kidding me, right, that God "does not want to forgive"?

He lets you perish as you have wanted to.
     “The only thing I can do and do- and I do it out of mercy on the saints, who, as rare as flowers in the desert, still pray; they pray, not making an avowal of custom and hypocrisy- is to hold back the wrath of My Father, who, weary of the crimes of a race for which my Blood has been shed to no avail, goes on wanting and wanting to apply Justice to you.

Absurd babbling.  God "goes on wanting and wanting to apply Justice to you"?  What's stopping God from doing so?

And justice, since you are blameworthy, would mean tremendous punishments which my Mercy does not want to be added to those you cause yourselves by your own.
    “Maria, I know I am wounding and demoralizing you.  You had hoped for joy from my Easter.  Roses after thorns.  Smiles after tears.  You are a victim.  The thorns and tears remain even in the time of Easter, for it is necessary to stay on the cross for the sake of this perverse humanity…..”

"Maria, I know I am wounding and demoralizing you.  ... Roses after thorns.  Smiles after tears."  My 10-year-old can write better than this.  Banal and stupid, from beginning to end.

Now, now boys........can't we imagine some of this strange writing?  Perhaps when we are imagining the sincerely good intentions of the conciliar popes................

No one can possibly read the excerpts that Nadir posted below and still promote this filth, or believe that our Savior speaks and acts thus.

Quote from: MiserereMeiDeus

 

Quote from: Stephanos II

From Tradition in Action: Valtorta's Poem of the Man-God

Valtorta’s Poem of the Man-God

Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
Book review of Peom of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta,    10 volumes, online edition
 

A friend recently sent me an e-mail asking about Maria Valtorta and her Poem of the Man-God. She received a recent issue of Kyrie Eleison comments of Bishop Richard Williamson titled “Home Reading” (October 20, 2012). In it, he recommends parents read selected chapters of the Poem of the Man-God to children every night.

He admits the Poem is controversial and has many enemies, but he defends Valtorta’s massive tome (4,000 pages in 10 volumes of supposed visions she received of the life of Christ). The Bishop supports it, despite the objections he lists: that it is riddled with doctrinal errors, that it humanizes Our Lord Jesus Christ, and that the work was placed on the Church’s Index of Forbidden Books in the 1950s.

He lightly dismisses all the arguments against it and concludes children will learn much about Our Lord and Our Lady from the Poem, which “will fortify a home.”

“I have not read this book,” my friend continues, “but, for Heaven’s sake, why didn’t Bishop W. recommend reading the wonderful, approved, written-by-a-canonized saint 4-volume City of God by Mother Mary of Agreda? But that is beside the point. I really do wish to know if you approve of the Poem of the Man-God. Even the title upsets my Catholic sensibilities.”

A humanized Christ

I believe my friend should follow her good Catholic sense. The very title, the Man-God , expresses the spirit of the work. It is Jesus as a man that Valtorta presents: a babe suckling greedily at his Mother’s breasts, a youth hardly aware of Who He is, a Man who laughs and jokes with His Apostles and is constantly kissing them on the mouth and embracing them closely. Yes, at the least, it is difficult not to suspect this showy Jesus pictured in such way as having ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ tendencies.

Valtorta’s natural approach is supposed to attract the modern man to the Life of Christ. It is in tune with the progressivist doctrine that tries to deny the supernatural and instead presents Our Lady as a simple Jєωιѕн woman and focuses on Our Lord as being a man “like us.” As Atila Guimaraes points out in Animus Injuriandi I, the progressivist Church aims to de-mythify and de-supernaturalize Christ and His Mother under the guise of presenting a natural “historical” Christ and Mary.” I believe Valtorta’s Jesus and Mary fit this mold.



An illustration of Valtorta's Jesus, a somewhat occult figure with a magnetic gaze

Valtorta’s Man-God depiction is the opposite of the God-Man portrayed by Anne Catherine Emmerich and Ven. Mary of Agreda, whose life of Christ is presented from an elevated, supernatural vantage point. One cannot help but wonder why the traditionalist Bishop would not recommend these works, instead of the Valtorta tomes, which were officially condemned by the Holy Office and placed on the Index in December 1959 and defined by L’Osservatore Romano of January 6,1960 as “a badly fictionalized life of Jesus.”

After Vatican II, Paul VI abolished the Index of Forbidden Books, and Valtorta’s supporters claim this nullifies the suppression of 1959. Unfortunately, the official position of the Church today is less than clear, with important Prelates and Catholic figures on both sides of the issue. Obviously, the progressivists, almost to the man, defend it.

The Poem of the Man-God, I believe, is riddled with banalities, vulgarities, blasphemies and even doctrinal errors. There are endless idle conversations between Our Lord, Our Lady and the Apostles, all on a natural level. I think the best way to confirm these points is simply to cite some texts, which are so revolting that they speak for themselves.

The quotes that follow are taken from an online edition of The Poem of the Man-God. A 48-page critique written in the 1980s – when the Poem’s popularity surged for a period, as it seems to be resurging now – by a Salesian, Brother James, S.D.B., can be read in its entirety here.

An Infant conceived with original sin

Valtorta portrays the Christ Child as a greedy infant of a sentimental Mother. It is difficult to find the respect we owe to Our Lord Jesus Christ in this imaginary immodest description of a nursing scene:



The Man-God presents a naturalistic view of Our Lady and the Christ Child

“Jesus opens His eyes, sees His Mother and smiles and stretches His little hands toward Her breast.

“[Mary] ‘Yes, love of Your Mummy. Yes. Your milk. Before the usual time. But You are always ready to suck Your Mummy's breast, My little holy Lamb!’

“Jesus laughs and plays, kicking His feet out of the blankets, moving His arms happily in a typical childish style, so beautiful to see. He pushes His feet against His Mummy's stomach. He arches His back leaning His fair head on Her breast, and then throws Himself back and laughs, holding with His hands the laces that tie Mary's dress to Her neck, endeavoring to open it. …

“Mary nurses Him and Jesus avidly sucks His Mother's good milk, and when He feels that only a little is coming from Her right breast, He looks for the left one, laughing while doing so and looking up at His Mother. Then He falls asleep again on Her breast, His rosy round little cheek resting against Her white round breast.” (Vol 1, n. 35, p. 106).

An Adult with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ tendencies

Valtorta’s Jesus suspiciously displays ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ tendencies since he is constantly kissing and embracing the Apostles. When Jesus tells James of His approaching Passion, James reacts with great emotion. Jesus comforts him thus:

“’Come, I will kiss you thus, to help you forget the burden of My fate as Man. Here, I kiss your lips that will have to repeat My words to the people of Israel and your heart that will have to love as I told you, and there, on your temple, where life will cease.’ … They remain embraced for a long time and James seems to doze off in the joy of God's kisses that make him forget his suffering.”



Recently beatified Gabriel Allegra, a Teilhard de Chardin colleague, was a promoter of the Man-God Poem [Chardin was a condemned heretic naturalistic Pantheist and practitioner of witchcraft]

When Valtorta describes the “favorite” Apostle John as having the face of a young girl with the “gaze of a lover,” we can hardly avoid having the impression that they have a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ relationship. Here Jesus is kissing John to awaken him:

“Jesus bends and kisses the cheek of John, who opens his eyes and is dumbfounded at seeing Jesus. He sits up and says, ‘Do you need me? Here I am.’ …

“John, half naked in his under-tunic, because he used his tunic and mantle as bed covers, clasps Jesus’ neck and lays his head between Jesus’ shoulder and cheek.”

After John professes his belief and love in Jesus as Son of God, “he smiles and weeps, panting, inflamed by his love, relaxing on Jesus’ chest, as if he were exhausted by his ardor. And Jesus caresses him, burning with love Himself.”

John begs Jesus not to tell the others of what has passed between them. Jesus replies, “Do not worry, John. No one will be aware of your wedding with the Love. Get dressed, come. We must leave.” (Vol. 2, n. 165, pp. 57-58)

Jesus suggests a love-affair between St. Peter and Our Lady

Jesus even jokes with impropriety with his apostles. Here, Jesus stands up and calls out loudly and angrily to Peter:

“‘Come here, you usurper and corrupter!’
“‘Me? Why? What have I done, Lord?’
“‘You have corrupted My Mother. That is why you wanted to be alone. What shall I do with you?’
“Jesus smiles and Peter recovers his confidence. ‘You really frightened me! Now You are laughing.” (Vol. II, n. 199, p. 185)

Like Luther, Mary thinks: Let us sin to be forgiven

Some passages are tantamount to heresy. For example, Valtorta presents the child Mary as expressing her desire to be a big sinner in order to merit the grace of Redemption:

“[Mary]: ‘Tell Me, mummy, can one be a sinner out of love of God?
“[Anne]: ‘What are you saying, my dear? I don't understand you.’
“[Mary]:’I mean: to commit a sin in order to be loved by God, Who becomes the Savior. Who is lost, is saved. Isn’t that so? I would like to be saved by the Savior to receive His loving look." (Vol. 1, n. 7, p. 23).

A sensual Eve tending toward bestiality

The work is also not without doctrinal errors, such as when Valtorta asserts the sin of Eve was not disobedience, but a sɛҳuąƖ act. There is also an insinuation of a tendency toward bestiality in Eve. This erotic description was supposedly made by Jesus:

“With his venomous tongue Satan blandished and caressed Eve’s limbs and eyes… Her flesh was aroused … The sensation is a sweet one for her. And ‘she understood.’ Now Malice was inside her and was gnawing at her intestines. She saw with new eyes and heard with new ears the habits and voices of beasts. And she craved for them with insane greed. “She began the sin by herself. She accomplished it with her companion.” (Vol. 1, n. 17, p. 49)

These are some excerpts I offer to my readers to evaluate Valtorta’s work. I believe they are sufficient for the reader to make a judgment of the whole.

It is thus understandable that the Holy Office placed the work on the Index of Forbidden Books, which is reproduced below. It is also understandable that the Salesian Brother James concluded his critique of the first two volumes with these words: “Poem of the Man-God is so demonic that without a special grace from Our Lord Jesus, we could be deceived by the seemingly harmless statements by Valtorta’s Jesus, but they enclose lies and heresy, contrary to the teachings of One, Holy Catholic Church.”


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Supreme Congregation of
the Holy Office

Decree
Proscription of Books
Wednesday, December 16, 1959

The Most Eminent and Reverend Cardinals of the Supreme Congregation of the Holy Office, to whom the safeguarding of things of the Faith and Moral is confided, after receiving the previous opinions of the Consultors, have unanimously condemned and ordered that the books by an anonymous author, in four volumes, be inscribed in the Index of Forbidden Books, the first of those books being:

Il Poema di Gesù [The Poem of Jesus] (Tipografia Editrice M. Pisani);

followed by,

Il Poema dell'Uomo-Dio [The Poem of the Man-God], (Ibidem).

On Friday of that same month and year, the Most Holy and Dignified Lord John XXIII, Pope by the grace of  Divine Providence, in an audience given to the Most Eminent and Reverend Cardinal Secretary of the Holy Office, after hearing the report of the Most Reverend Fathers, approved this resolution and commanded that it be published.

Given in Rome, in the seat of the
Holy Office on January 5, 1960.
Sebastian Masala, Notary

Ladislaus, please shut up!  :rolleyes:

Aww.

Just a word about how the Church deals with private revelation as a whole without getting into further details. Per the CCC,

"Throughout the ages, there have been so-called "private" revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ's definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history. Guided by the Magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.
Christian faith cannot accept "revelations" that claim to surpass or correct the Revelation of which Christ is the fulfillment, as is the case in certain non-Christian religions and also in certain recent sects which base themselves on such "revelations"."

Some passages of this filthy work remind one of nothing so much as the execrable blasphemies of Nikos Kazantsakis. He too, has a richly deserved place on the Index Librorum Prohibitorum.

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No one can possibly read the excerpts that Nadir posted below and still promote this filth, or believe that our Savior speaks and acts thus.

The 'shining lights' on Cathinfo' imply that Bp. Williamson, Pius XII and Abp. Marcel Lefebvre promoted this "filth."  Because to date, no one has come forward with proof that they didn't.  H.E., the Archbishop, and the last of the pre-Conciliar popes apparently liked what Valtorta wrote.  But PerE, Nadir, Ladislaus and other loquacious trad experts say terrible things about the poor woman.  I'm so confused! Not really though.. just somewhat amused.  

So what? It means only that Pope Pius XII, Bishop Williamson and Archbishop Lefebvre were in error on this specific issue. The idea that Jesus' efforts are being somewhat thwarted is completely heretical - Satan can do only as much as God allows him to, he can't go one inch further. It is actually the same error which exposes (among many other heresies) the falsehood of Maria Divine Mercy - in one of her messages Jesus allegedly said that "every attempt by Him to intervene to save sinners is thwarted by the evil one" - blasphemy.