Author Topic: Is this the worst it has ever been? (Read 1683 times)

Cato · « **on:** April 02, 2013, 12:18:36 AM »

Is this the worst it has ever been in the Church? Today we have Sodomites and Communists throughout the church. The Faith is weakened in NO parishes; I could go on and on. Has there ever been a time when times were worse? Even in the days of the Reformation, the Church had some direction.

Marlelar · « **Reply #1 on:** April 02, 2013, 01:03:43 AM »

I think the crisis in leadership that we have had for the last 50 years has certainly been severe, but the faith itself has been under attack since the fall of Lucifer.

Every generation or two has had to deal with some sort of crisis; different people, different modi operandi but still one long line of crises. Lucifer wants to keep as many souls as possible out of heaven.

Marsha

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #2 on:** April 02, 2013, 04:04:52 AM »

I doubt it is as bad or worse as it has ever been.

It is surprising to think that, but it cannot be otherwise.

When we become as wicked as we were before the flood, God will again bring his judgment to bear on us.

Until then, it's not as bad as it was before.

Arborman · « **Reply #3 on:** April 02, 2013, 08:18:13 AM »

Yes this is the worse times in the history of the Church because almost the entire hierarchy has lost the faith and there is no human way of turning it around.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #4 on:** April 02, 2013, 08:53:13 AM »

Yes, it is horrible and the reason is, the Truth in fullness has been revealed to the world and for the most part rejected.

The world has rejected Truth, therefore God has allowed the world to believe in lies.

In the days of Noah, people were judged by what was then revealed to them, but today it is different because everything man needed to know has been revealed to us. The Gospel has been preached to the entire world.

God judges us by what He has given us and He has given us His all. His Precious Blood was shed, every drop upon this planet, no where else in the entire Universe has His Blood been shed. Yet, look at the world!

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #5 on:** April 02, 2013, 12:07:09 PM »

I believe during the Aryan heresy something like 75% of the bishops were in heresy

rowsofvoices9 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 02, 2013, 01:53:40 PM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

Yes, it is horrible and the reason is, the Truth in fullness has been revealed to the world and for the most part rejected.

The world has rejected Truth, therefore God has allowed the world to believe in lies.

In the days of Noah, people were judged by what was then revealed to them, but today it is different because everything man needed to know has been revealed to us. The Gospel has been preached to the entire world.

God judges us by what He has given us and He has given us His all. His Precious Blood was shed, every drop upon this planet, no where else in the entire Universe has His Blood been shed. Yet, look at the world!

I agree with everything you say except that the Gospel has been preached to the entire world. It has not. There are still many pagans and infidels (Muslims) who sit in darkness who have never even heard of Jesus. Particularly in parts of Asia and Africa. This is one way we can know for certain that the end of the world isn't imminent.

I do believe that this is the worst crisis the Church has ever experienced in its entire history to date for the very reasons that you state.

Matto · « **Reply #7 on:** April 02, 2013, 02:13:51 PM »

I think this has to be the worst crisis that the Church has ever been through, even worse than the Aryan crisis. How many of the world's Bishops did anything to fight for the faith after the crisis started? Three? Lefebvre, the Bishop of Campos, and Thuc. Was that all?

There must have been others, but not many and they did not do much.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #8 on:** April 02, 2013, 02:30:39 PM »

Yes, I'd say that this is the worst crisis the Catholic Church has experienced.

songbird · « **Reply #9 on:** April 02, 2013, 04:16:29 PM »

It is the worst compared to the years before, because of the loss of Precious Blood. That is what the enemy is out to destroy. Chapter 12 of Daniel. The Precious Blood is in all the sacraments. Take it away(change them) what is left?

ihsv · « **Reply #10 on:** April 02, 2013, 07:15:32 PM »

The seriousness of the ailment can be seen in the seriousness of the remedy.

In the past, God has raised up great saints to fight the enemies of the Church and to restore sanity. In this epoch, the resolution of our troubles has been reserved to Our Lady herself. She has appeared no less than five different times to warn us of the impending danger and to give us the proper remedies. She has been ignored in all cases.

If God has not struck yet as He did during the deluge, it is only because of the intercession of Our Lady that His Hand has been stayed.

But she has assured us that in the end, her Immaculate Heart will triumph. She will be the one to vanquish heresy and restore the Church.

The greater the ailment, the greater the remedy.

So yes, never before has it been as bad as it is today.

Napoli · « **Reply #11 on:** May 26, 2013, 10:22:58 PM »

We could rely on the sacraments before. Now we can't. I don't know how it could be any worse? Floods? Famine? War? I would gladly endure them if I had the confidence of the sacrament.

Sigismund · « **Reply #12 on:** May 27, 2013, 06:38:12 PM »

Quote from: Iuvenalis

I believe during the Aryan heresy something like 75% of the bishops were in heresy

I was thinking the same thing. Although in this case it is "Arian", not "Aryan". They were proto-Unitarians, not nαzιs. :smile:

Napoli · « **Reply #13 on:** May 27, 2013, 06:52:44 PM »

I always wondered why the nαzιs called themselves aryans when true aryans are from northern part of India?

Sigismund · « **Reply #14 on:** May 27, 2013, 08:58:22 PM »

As I understand it, the nαzιs maintained that Germans were somehow descended from them.