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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Is attending an illicit mass a sin?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2021, 02:58:40 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 02, 2021, 10:19:07 AM
Right, and the NO Code of Canon Law says you can go to any valid Rite of Mass for just reason (vs. I guess formally adhering to the schism).  That's one of the many paradoxes of the NO.  Conservative NO-ites claim it's wrong to go to the SSPX Masses when their own hierarchy says otherwise.  They would be aghast if a Catholic went to pray at a ѕуηαgσgυє, but it's OK for Wojtyla, Ratzinger, and Bergoglio to do it.
A conservative NO would be aghast if a Catholic went to pray at a ѕуηαgσgυє?  I don't think so.
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Offline Minnesota

Re: Is attending an illicit mass a sin?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2021, 07:58:56 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on April 02, 2021, 02:58:40 PM
A conservative NO would be aghast if a Catholic went to pray at a ѕуηαgσgυє?  I don't think so.
They'd give the whole "eLdEr BrOtHeRs iN tHr F8h" nonsense to justify praying in a ѕуηαgσgυє.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Is attending an illicit mass a sin?
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2021, 09:14:11 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on April 02, 2021, 02:58:40 PM
A conservative NO would be aghast if a Catholic went to pray at a ѕуηαgσgυє?  I don't think so.

No, I know enough of them.  They denounce the local Seder meal at their NO church, going to pray at a ѕуηαgσgυє or Orthodox church, or even SSPX ... but then do the old see no evil, hear no evil routine when it comes to the V2 papal claimants.  It’s like the old The Wanderer publication which would excoriate one bishop after another for interreligious services but then ignore it when Wojtyla did the same thing or worse.  If, say, an NO bishop had gotten a mark of Shiva on his forehead, they’d go ape over it, but then justify Wojtyla doing it.
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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: Is attending an illicit mass a sin?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2021, 12:37:44 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 02, 2021, 10:21:05 AM
No, it's not.  1983 Code of Canon Law says it's allowed for a Catholic to attend valid Masses of non-Catholics provided there's some just cause ... including even a full-blown schismatic Orthodox one ... and that these even meet the Sunday obligation.  So if these guys are your hierarchy, then they said it was OK.
I guess that's fair (assuming you can't R and R that) but one could theoretically argue that "I don't think Francis is the Pope so I'd rather go to a mass where he isn't prayed for" *doesn't* constitute a just reason.


All that said the bigger issue here is probably believing the see has been vacant for the past 60 years, and probably less so "the nearest latin mass was a CMRI for some reason" from the "Normie perspective"
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Is attending an illicit mass a sin?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2021, 05:52:56 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 02, 2021, 09:14:11 PM
No, I know enough of them.  They denounce the local Seder meal at their NO church, going to pray at a ѕуηαgσgυє or Orthodox church, or even SSPX ... but then do the old see no evil, hear no evil routine when it comes to the V2 papal claimants.  It’s like the old The Wanderer publication which would excoriate one bishop after another for interreligious services but then ignore it when Wojtyla did the same thing or worse.  If, say, an NO bishop had gotten a mark of Shiva on his forehead, they’d go ape over it, but then justify Wojtyla doing it.
I don't doubt that that is what you've experienced.  But having been a conservative NO myself at one time, I know this wasn't fully true for me and for many others with whom I was friendly/went to church...especially when it came to anything Jєωιѕн.  I was always encouraged to take part in my family's celebrations.  Perhaps what you speak of is more prevalent of those who go to the diocesan TLM or an indult.  
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