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Traditional Catholic Faith => The Sacred: Catholic Liturgy, Chant, Prayers => Topic started by: Telesphorus on June 09, 2009, 01:56:34 AM

Title: Intention and the Sacraments
Post by: Telesphorus on June 09, 2009, 01:56:34 AM
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The Church teaches very unequivocally that for the valid conferring of the sacraments, the minister must have the intention of doing at least what the Church does. This is laid down with great emphasis by the Council of Trent (sess. VII). The opinion once defended by such theologians as Catharinus and Salmeron that there need only be the intention to perform deliberately the external rite proper to each sacrament, and that, as long as this was true, the interior dissent of the minister from the mind of the Church would not invalidate the sacrament, no longer finds adherents. The common doctrine now is that a real internal intention to act as a minister of Christ, or to do what Christ instituted the sacraments to effect, in other words, to truly baptize, absolve, etc., is required.


http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08069b.htm

This would mean any priest who does not believe in the sacrificial atonement as part of his "theology" is not saying valid masses.  For example, Bishop Zoellitsch.

Some pertinent links:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02055a.htm

http://cathinfo-warning-pornography!/Ignis_Ardens/index.php?showtopic=3865
Title: Intention and the Sacraments
Post by: gladius_veritatis on June 09, 2009, 07:09:11 AM
The priest is PRESUMED to have the correct intention so long as he does what the Church DOES - i.e., if he uses the correct matter and form, one CANNOT believe his intentions are amiss UNLESS HE CLEARLY AND UNEQUIVOCALLY DEMONSTRATES SUCH AT THE TIME.  How could he do so?  He would have to make a rather EXPLICIT statement to that end, etc.  Even a FAITHLESS MINISTER, so long as he uses the correct matter and form, consecrates VALIDLY.  Such is the teaching of St. Thomas and Holy Church.  God speed.
Title: Intention and the Sacraments
Post by: Telesphorus on June 09, 2009, 03:37:00 PM