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Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #130 on: July 01, 2022, 12:23:12 PM »
In your unorthodox view of the Church, the papacy becomes superfluous. That’s why I coined the term “ the church of the superfluous pope”.
A classic.

The objection: "How can we be 60 years without a pope?"

Is so easily refuted by the fact that the pope makes the faith more confusing and difficult to practice for most.

Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #131 on: July 01, 2022, 12:36:08 PM »
Vermont, that sounds good, but it was the same Chair, with the same infallibility in teaching: both spoke for God, and taught with His authority.  Listen to the Scriptures: the example of Israel is an example for our instruction:

Again, Our Lord told us that the Pharisees "sat in Moses seat" and had his authority, and that they should be listened to: do what they say, etc.. But he also said they could (and did) teach some things that were contrary to the word of God.

See the attached annotations from the original, Douay translation (1609) of Deuteronomy 17:9.

When I get back on my laptop instead of the phone (I hate surfing and posting on my phone!), I'll take a look at your attachments, but my initial reaction to your post is everything in the Old Testament was merely a type.  One example is the manna in the desert.  Clearly not the same as the Bread of Life in the New Testament....but it was a type. The New is always superior and supersedes the Old.



Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #132 on: July 01, 2022, 12:43:22 PM »
A classic.

The objection: "How can we be 60 years without a pope?"

Is so easily refuted by the fact that the pope makes the faith more confusing and difficult to practice for most.
I agree but...
He actually makes a bigger problem for himself:
 the pope himself is a heretic.