Author Topic: How to consume Host (Read 2970 times)

Kephapaulos · « **on:** May 05, 2013, 10:40:15 PM »

A student in my catechism class asked about whether it was a sin to chew the Host when receiving Holy Communion. Is it a sin? Thank you.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #1 on:** May 05, 2013, 10:41:26 PM »

No.

The Greek used in John 6 for "eat" is "trogo." It means literally to gnaw or chew.

Miseremini · « **Reply #2 on:** May 06, 2013, 01:45:52 PM »

It may not be a sin to chew the Host HOWEVER there are many things that aren't sins that we still don't do.
In the 1940's & '50's the nuns taught us NOT to chew the Host out of reverence for Our Lord, because a particle could remain in the mouth (much like spinich between the teeth) longer than 15 minutes and later be discarded (like getting attached to gum etc)

songbird · « **Reply #3 on:** May 06, 2013, 02:10:14 PM »

If the host is made correctly, it should dissolve. For those in the New Order, maybe their host are made differently.

Miseremini · « **Reply #4 on:** May 06, 2013, 02:52:20 PM »

Quote from: songbird

If the host is made correctly, it should dissolve. For those in the New Order, maybe their host are made differently.

If it's not made correctly it doesn't matter what you do with it because Our Lord will not be present. The church requires proper Form, Matter and Intent. The addition of yeast, sugar, salt, any grain other than wheat etc invalidates the proper matter requirement. Even leaving the lid on the ciborium during the Consecration will invalidate the Consecration.
Using ordinary bread, a hot dog bun or danish is NOT Holy Communion.
It's sad to see how much has been forgotten.

Matto · « **Reply #5 on:** May 06, 2013, 03:03:49 PM »

Quote from: Miseremini

Using ordinary bread, a hot dog bun or danish is NOT Holy Communion.
It's sad to see how much has been forgotten.

I remember seeing a picture of a Novus Ordo procession where the priest held up a dinner roll which he consecrated. I think it was in either Austria or Germany.

Matto · « **Reply #6 on:** May 06, 2013, 03:40:41 PM »

I wonder if Christ was truly present there.

s2srea · « **Reply #7 on:** May 06, 2013, 04:09:17 PM »

Quote from: Matto

I wonder if Christ was truly present there.

I hope sometimes that these are just Protestants (Anglicans', etc)... Then I wonder what difference it would make- none.

Matthew · « **Reply #8 on:** May 06, 2013, 04:18:08 PM »

That's not even valid matter. So no, Christ isn't present there.

It has to be unleavened bread made of pure wheat flour.

Matto · « **Reply #9 on:** May 06, 2013, 04:21:40 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

It has to be unleavened bread made of pure wheat flour.

I thought the Eastern Rites use leavened bread, don't they?

Sigismund · « **Reply #10 on:** May 07, 2013, 09:10:44 PM »

Quote from: Miseremini

It may not be a sin to chew the Host HOWEVER there are many things that aren't sins that we still don't do.
In the 1940's & '50's the nuns taught us NOT to chew the Host out of reverence for Our Lord, because a particle could remain in the mouth (much like spinich between the teeth) longer than 15 minutes and later be discarded (like getting attached to gum etc)

The nuns did say that, and they were wrong. Our Lord said "Take and eat." He meant it.

PatrickG · « **Reply #11 on:** May 17, 2013, 04:33:15 AM »

Quote from: Matto

I wonder if Christ was truly present there.

Good grief.

Tiffany · « **Reply #12 on:** May 17, 2013, 07:23:32 AM »

Quote from: Miseremini

Quote from: songbird
If the host is made correctly, it should dissolve. For those in the New Order, maybe their host are made differently.

If it's not made correctly it doesn't matter what you do with it because Our Lord will not be present. The church requires proper Form, Matter and Intent. The addition of yeast, sugar, salt, any grain other than wheat etc invalidates the proper matter requirement. Even leaving the lid on the ciborium during the Consecration will invalidate the Consecration.
Using ordinary bread, a hot dog bun or danish is NOT Holy Communion.
It's sad to see how much has been forgotten.

I'm curious is there a certain type of wheat it must be? Hard, soft, white, red? Secondly is the whole grain used or is it white flour?

What did they do before modern transportation to bring wheat to places where it's difficult to grow?

Napoli · « **Reply #13 on:** May 17, 2013, 04:33:15 PM »

Orthodox do use leavened bread.

It doesn't matter about the type of wheat. It just has to be only wheat and water. For people with the allergy they remove the part of the wheat which causes the allergy but it's still only wheat and water.

Napoli · « **Reply #14 on:** May 17, 2013, 04:36:02 PM »

Chewing is never a good idea. Why not pray and let it slowly dissolve? It's our Lord after all.