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... and, in a correct use of the term "begging the question" (petitio principii), this has as its premise that the soul has not yet left the body in that time.

I'm carrying this over from another thread, per Matthew's good suggestion.  One commentator suggests that EU may be administered anywhere from six minutes after apparent death, to a half-hour (see previous thread).  "Going way out on the flight deck", so to speak, grammarian (and armchair theologian of sorts, aren't we all? :jester:) N.M. Gwynne opined that the soul does not leave the body until putrefaction has set in, which can be up to three days in.  The six-minute threshold dovetails nicely with the period at which oxygen deprivation --- which bodily death certainly imposes --- begins to kill the brain cells.  There is also a school of thought that says the soul remains with the body longer, if the death is sudden.  (But that's kind of unscientific, after all, biologically speaking, dead is dead.  Unless you're a tree.)

Thoughts from the forum regarding how long the soul remains with the body?

(As an aside, getting back to the pet peeve I cited above, we are now learning about logical fallacies in homeschool English class, and my son likes to "jerk my chain" by incorrectly (and deliberately) misusing the term "begging the question", per common parlance, to mean "that raises the question", just to get a reaction out of me.  At least he's being attentive to his studies.)

Re: How long after apparent death may one receive Extreme Unction?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2022, 10:13:30 AM »
... and, in a correct use of the term "begging the question" (petitio principii), this has as its premise that the soul has not yet left the body in that time.

I'm carrying this over from another thread, per Matthew's good suggestion.  One commentator suggests that EU may be administered anywhere from six minutes after apparent death, to a half-hour (see previous thread).  "Going way out on the flight deck", so to speak, grammarian (and armchair theologian of sorts, aren't we all? :jester:) N.M. Gwynne opined that the soul does not leave the body until putrefaction has set in, which can be up to three days in.  The six-minute threshold dovetails nicely with the period at which oxygen deprivation --- which bodily death certainly imposes --- begins to kill the brain cells.  There is also a school of thought that says the soul remains with the body longer, if the death is sudden.  (But that's kind of unscientific, after all, biologically speaking, dead is dead.  Unless you're a tree.)

Thoughts from the forum regarding how long the soul remains with the body?

(As an aside, getting back to the pet peeve I cited above, we are now learning about logical fallacies in homeschool English class, and my son likes to "jerk my chain" by incorrectly (and deliberately) misusing the term "begging the question", per common parlance, to mean "that raises the question", just to get a reaction out of me.  At least he's being attentive to his studies.)

I have no idea how long the soul remains with the body, but I've always heard 3 hours, WRT the question in the subject line.  



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Re: How long after apparent death may one receive Extreme Unction?
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2022, 11:40:13 AM »
I would say that if there is even only a shred of doubt as to whether or not the soul has left the body, then the priest should do it. Heck, even if it seems like he's too late, why couldn't the priest do it conditionally, i.e. "If thou art still alive....."

Re: How long after apparent death may one receive Extreme Unction?
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2022, 12:49:31 PM »
I worked as a nursing supervisor at a local hospital for years. I had a pretty good relationship with the ER docs back then and they actually would wait and not call the time of death on a Catholic patient until after the priest got there, (because I asked) so that they would get the sacrament. Most of the docs were not even Catholic ( it was a Catholic Hospital). it was usually within the hour that the priest showed up.

(The particular priest at the hospital would not give the anointing if the patient was pronounced. I pray these patients got the grace of the final sacrament.) This was the 90's and I was NO back then.

Re: How long after apparent death may one receive Extreme Unction?
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2022, 01:19:09 PM »

How long after apparent death may one receive Extreme Unction?

From my experiences, it seems up to the particular priest.