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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2010, 11:04:37 AM »
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  • I'm seeing them tearing into PEOPLE right and left.

    Matto, you are young yet.  A few years of seeing conspiracies and evil in every hitherto trusted figure, and you will be huddled in a closet with a major case of paranoia.  Where then the hope?
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    « Reply #16 on: July 22, 2010, 11:21:32 AM »
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  • You are right that some people do attack each other viciously here, especially recently.

    But the conspiracies are real. Is it better to trust evil men than to know they are evil and be weary? It is possible to understand that the world is ruled by men who are slaves of the devil without falling into despair because we know that God is greater than the devil and he will protect us if we are faithful to him. As for huddling in the closet, the early Christians did just that, hiding in caves because of Roman persecution, and they did not lose hope.
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    « Reply #17 on: July 22, 2010, 11:37:02 AM »
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  • You will, though, if you are exposed to enough of it.  The early Christians had each other to support each other.  In time you will learn to trust no one, and will have no one to bouy your hope.  Check out these quotes of those who have been around this stuff for awhile.

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    Matthew said:


    The saints were no exception to this. If any of them were alive today, they wouldn't be members of CathInfo, nevermind argue in the Crisis section with any regularity. They would be spending their time with family, reading spiritual books, praying, and doing good works like visiting the sick, helping the poor, etc.


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    This is where I fall now...deep down, I think that everyone realizes that CathInfo (and other internet forums) bear little or no spiritual fruit that will help you become holier.

    Thomas a Kempis said that when two people that have the spirit of Christ converse with each other it would bear great fruit for both of them, but I don't see how this is true for the majority of threads on this site and others.

    In the two years that I've regularly posted here, I cannot attribute any spiritual growth to this site except my great leap backwards when I took CM as my guru (a very embarrassing time for me...if it were possible I would delete every single post of that arrogant fool, DeMaistre).


    This is a quote from Vladimir in his thread Final Thoughts on Crisis in the Church.  Here is another one from him in that same thread.

    I wasn't implying that it was the forum itself that was detrimental to me, just that it isn't a source of any real or significant spiritual fruit. In other words, its just something that's fun to do in the evening, etc. For this reason I think its best to leave it for now.

    I've been praying all 15 decades of the Rosary daily for a few months now and prayerfully reading a lot of Saint Alphonsus. School is about to start up for me again, so I'll be pressed for time to pray and read good books, so CathInfo just needs to go, since its the least important.
     
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     Hold on.  I  will get you another quote.
     
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    « Reply #18 on: July 22, 2010, 11:50:03 AM »
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  • Quote from: Trinity
    In time you will learn to trust no one, and will have no one to bouy your hope.

    I understand there is danger in becoming obsessed with conspiracy theories and spending lots of time learning about them, but you seem to be suggesting as an alternative to pretend everything is okay. I just see things as being bad, realize that there is nothing I can do about it, and try to live my life.
    I Love Watching Butterflies . . ..

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    « Reply #19 on: July 22, 2010, 11:50:46 AM »
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  • Mathew posted this in Cathinfo Declaration/ General Discussion

    I do not wish to be reinstated into membership on Cathinfo. I find that my banishment was actually a blessing from God in that it allowed me to spend less time in internet polemics for which I was not fully prepared, and more time on personal spiritual development. I would appreciate it, however, if you would post my apology to the end of the thread here. Hotheadedness is a vice with which I have long struggled, and I do not wish for my heated comments to remain as-is, potentially leading others astray.

    In Christ,
    Matthew D. Hardin
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    « Reply #20 on: July 22, 2010, 03:31:17 PM »
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  • No, Matto, I don't suggest that.  But I do suggest you place your trust in God, and don't think that you can out think the devil.  The more you try to protect yourself from every eventuality, the more you will find that you need protection.  And that is all you will find---plus the loss of your health.
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    « Reply #21 on: July 24, 2010, 11:50:35 AM »
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  • From the book Lambs in Wolfskins by Eddie Doherty pgs 131-132

    When Don Bosco chose St. Francis de Sales, among all the thousands of saints clustered about the throne of God, did he pickhim as carefully as he had picked his friends at school?  Or did he choose him because of a sort of love at first encounter which had ripened with the years?

    Certainly the immortal Bishop of Geneva was the type of saint Don Bosco most admired.  He had been a missionary, a teacher of catechism, a writer of books and pamphlets, a great lover of the poor and a tremendous lover of Christ and Mary.

    "Everything must be done by love," he had written, "nothing by force."  "The measure of love is to love without measure."  "Pluck out one of my eyes, and I shall look at you affectionately with the other."  "Give me souls; take all the rest."  "To speak well we need only to love well."

    St. Francis de Sales, who died in 1622, one hundred and ninety-three years before John Bosco was born, took new life in his pupil's heart.  Today he and St. John Bosco are closer than Saints Peter and Paul.  They are inseparables.

    St. Francis was born, Aug. 21, 1567, in the duchy of Savoy.  He was, like John Bosco, first taught about God by his mother.  When he was in his teens he was convinced that he was going to hell, to hate God throug all eternity.  Therefore he humbly begged that he might love God in this life as much as a man could, and to love Him every minute of that life.

    At the height of his despondancy he knelt before a statue of the Virgin and asked her help.  He rose completely cured of any tendency toward despair.  As  a result, he consecrated himself to the Most Holy Lady, and determined to be a priest.  

    He was sent, as a missionary, into the Chablais district of Savoy, then almost entirely Calvinistic.  It is said there were but 15 Catholics in the entire territory at the time.  He preached constantly to the people, but no one listened.  Then he began to write.  He spent many hours producing leaflets that he threw away where the Calvinists would find them.  When he left, out of a population estimated at 75,000 to 78,000, there remained only 15 Calvinists...

    St Jane (Chantel) was given  a vision St. Francis before she met him.  She saw "an angelic countenance, one breathing of heaven"; and she was told, "This is the guide, beloved of God, into whose keeping you must give your conscience."

    This was the man, beloved indeed of God, Don Bosco chose as his model wehn he wrote out his resolutions in the days before he was ordained.

    "I shall try to carry with me everywhere the charity and gentleness of St. Francis de Sales.  May this charity illumine every step I take!"

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    « Reply #22 on: July 24, 2010, 11:59:40 AM »
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  • Boy, that is replete with  typos.
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