Author Topic: Holy Spirit, a Person. (Read 1547 times)

crossbro · « **on:** March 11, 2014, 01:30:33 AM »

Corinthians 1 11

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So the things also that , no man knoweth, but the Spirit of God.

John 14 26

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But the paraclete, the Holy Ghost, who the father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you.

Dolores · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2014, 08:07:18 AM »

Of course, the Holy Ghost is the third person of the Holy Trinity. However, the Holy Ghost, like God the Father, has no human nature, He is purely "spiritual" (if that is the correct word). Only God the Son has both a human nature and a divine nature.

TKGS · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2014, 10:44:32 AM »

Thank you crossbro. I'm sure that was a matter of confusion here on CathInfo. :wink:

crossbro · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2014, 11:00:15 AM »

Quote from: Dolores

Of course, the Holy Ghost is the third person of the Holy Trinity. However, the Holy Ghost, like God the Father, has no human nature, He is purely "spiritual" (if that is the correct word). Only God the Son has both a human nature and a divine nature.

You will need to elaborate here.

The reason I posted this was because I just learned that it is Church doctrine that indeed the HS is a person. I think the teaching is important as it helps clarify the relationship between us and the Trinity. Maybe instead of trying to obtain something super-natural with the HS we should be speaking and respecting the HS in the same manner we do Jesus.

TKGS · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2014, 02:28:11 PM »

Seriously? I mean, seriously? I truly am sorry for my previous post. Please take this as a sincere apology. I really did not think that any Catholic, let alone a traditional Catholic was not fully aware of this. I really thought you were being facetious.

I would ask you to elaborate. What did you think the Holy Ghost (aka the Holy Spirit) was? I had been educated in the Novus Ordo during the heyday of the Vatican II revolution and even the extremely poor catechism I had taught me that the Holy Spirit was the "third person of the Trinity". What were you taught about the Holy Ghost?

This is really important to me because, before my godson decided that I wasn't worth the effort to speak to or be civil to, he had essentially told me that his view of God was...well, I really can't remember his exact words...but I do remember that my understanding of what he said was that he worshipped "the Force"--right out of Star Wars. But he had gotten himself involved with the New Age and I really thought that was where he had gotten this idea. But now I'm wondering if he learned this from his Conciliar upbringing.

crossbro · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2014, 10:51:41 PM »

Quote from: Dolores

Of course, the Holy Ghost is the third person of the Holy Trinity. However, the Holy Ghost, like God the Father, has no human nature, He is purely "spiritual" (if that is the correct word). Only God the Son has both a human nature and a divine nature.

I don't know. It seems to me that God the Father had the trait of human nature when he spoke through the burning bush to Moses.

Then in my quotes in the OP, Jesus tells us the HS will teach us.

Dolores · « **Reply #6 on:** March 13, 2014, 10:12:47 AM »

Quote from: crossbro

Quote from: Dolores
Of course, the Holy Ghost is the third person of the Holy Trinity. However, the Holy Ghost, like God the Father, has no human nature, He is purely "spiritual" (if that is the correct word). Only God the Son has both a human nature and a divine nature.

You will need to elaborate here.

The reason I posted this was because I just learned that it is Church doctrine that indeed the HS is a person. I think the teaching is important as it helps clarify the relationship between us and the Trinity. Maybe instead of trying to obtain something super-natural with the HS we should be speaking and respecting the HS in the same manner we do Jesus.

There are three persons in the Holy Trinity: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost. They each have a separate "person-hood," but there is only one God.

All three persons of the Holy Trinity are divine in nature (that part is obvious). But, only God the Son also human nature. That is a result of the Incarnation. So, while God the Father and God the Holy Ghost each have their own distinctive divine "person-hood," they do not have a human nature.

While both God the Father and God the Holy Ghost come into the material world, only God the Son took on a human nature when he came into the world.

If it helps, God the Father and God the Holy Ghost could be described as "Divine Persons," while God the Son can be described as a "Divine Person and a Human Person."

TKGS · « **Reply #7 on:** March 17, 2014, 04:35:47 PM »

crossbro,

I would still like to hear your story of what you were taught of the Holy Ghost.

I've been catching up on Restoration Radio shows that I had not had time to listen to. Below is the link for the show, The Spiritual Life, that discusses the Mystery of the Trinity and goes into much more detail of the doctrine of the Holy Spirit as a Person. I recommend it highly.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/restorationradio/2014/02/16/the-spiritual-life-ii-doctrinal-foundations-of-the-spiritual-life-part-2

Nadir · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2014, 06:43:24 AM »

I too am astounded! I did not know what to make of your thread, Crossbro, but it becomes clearer, because of TKGS' facetious remark.

I would also like to know how and when you got your education in the Faith. I am very sincerely interested and concerned, because there must be so many others who have this gap in their knowledge. These basics are absolutely essential to a Catholic sense.

Anyway it good that you came to that important knowledge. God bless.