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Offline littlerose

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« on: January 05, 2010, 06:23:36 PM »
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  • If a person is confirmed with the sponsor being in a state of very serious and continuous mortal sin, is the Confirmation somehow tainted?

    And what if you discover that there is no Saint with the name taken as the Confirmation name, thus there is no patron saint for that person? What should that person do about a possibly tainted or incomplete Confirmation?

    If there is a "Saint Lorene" then this second question is moot, but I have been searching for a saint by that name and cannot find her.



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    « Reply #1 on: January 06, 2010, 07:20:19 AM »
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  • the sponsor is not the "confirmer", the Bishop is.....sacrements are not dependant on ones personal soul-even said Bishop could be fornicating, if he is valid ordained nad his intent is to properly administer the sacrement, then confirmee is fine.....
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic


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    « Reply #2 on: January 06, 2010, 08:17:08 AM »
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  • Littlerose (handful of thorns) Your question is applicable to me also.
    Bellyache (Belloc) please elaborate.....I've been wondering about this for years now.
    Thanks all.

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    « Reply #3 on: January 06, 2010, 08:36:33 AM »
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    Bellyache (Belloc) please elaborate.....Thanks all.


    not likely going to, unless you can tell me why I am a bellyache.........
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

    Offline littlerose

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    « Reply #4 on: January 06, 2010, 09:44:02 AM »
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  • Quote from: Belloc
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    Bellyache (Belloc) please elaborate.....Thanks all.


    not likely going to, unless you can tell me why I am a bellyache.........

    I know why I'm thorny, but I wouldn't take it all personally because I think oldavid arrived in the middle of a lot of bellyachin' in these boards as there was some fussin & a'feudin going on. Mat banned an instigator and the rest of us settled down in our corners, didn't we?

    Anyway, thank you for the re-assurance. The Bishop was very old in this case (mine) and so I'm pretty sure he was outside of the conflicts we see today, this was back in 1969.

    NOw the second part, about Saint's names, I don't think should be a big problem because I have always related to Sainte Therese as my personal patron, anyway.

    But I did have a rocky return to the Church because I left when I came of age not long after that Confirmation (and largely due to my sponsor's state of sin, which embittered me) and so I was not prepared for the extent to which N-O changed the Church over the past 30 years.

    During my wanderings I learned a great deal about the spiritual world and about the work of Our Lady to protect us in it. Like many returnees, I returned in my heart long before I used my feet.

    Anyway, as I have related elsewhere, I ran headlong into the new protestant catholic culture and one of the things I found very disturbing was the increased involvment of the laity with the demonic world.  This can be blamed on too much tolerance of the charismatic heresies alongside the collapse of good teaching about sacramental holiness and the proper attitude of prayer.

    In the parish to which I returned, before I moved to Austin, they use the Rosary as a kind of prayer-coven and they do not pray for converts, they pray "against" specific individuals and pray to rid the community of specific individuals. They use mob tactics to spread rumors and suspicion. I was actually invited into that type of Rosary prayer, and I expressed my shock and outrage. I then became a target.

    Now I struggle with the devil of fear every time I go to Mass, even though I am 150 miles away. I want to put every source of reasonable worry to rest so that I can walk past that little fear-devil with a confident step.


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    « Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 03:09:38 AM »
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  • Quote from: Belloc
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    Bellyache (Belloc) please elaborate.....Thanks all.


    not likely going to, unless you can tell me why I am a bellyache.........


    Sorry old chap, I didn't mean to offend. I'm Australian ('strayan) with a fair bit of Irish. Leg - pulling is customary. I only called you bellyache because it sounds like Belloc.

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    « Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 07:41:57 AM »
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  • Gotcha, no offense taken.....
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic