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Offline 007

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Help for pagans
« on: September 08, 2018, 07:08:26 AM »
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    • What book would you recommend a complete pagan to read that would lead him to the faith?
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    Re: Help for pagans
    « Reply #1 on: September 08, 2018, 12:25:38 PM »
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    • Step one is just to prove the existence of God.  There are lots of books out there about that.  They're not (barring a miracle of grace) going to go from atheist to Traditional Catholic in one step.
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    Re: Help for pagans
    « Reply #2 on: September 08, 2018, 02:28:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: 007 on September 08, 2018, 07:08:26 AM
    What book would you recommend a complete pagan to read that would lead him to the faith?
    There are a great number of books that could and would be highly recommendable,  but obviously it would be quite helpful to know something more about your hypothetical "complete pagan" before you would recommend one for him, as for example whether or not he was an academic type who liked to read or a more simple type of fellow who really was not easily given over to reading.  So, perhaps you would like to toss out some additional facts about your hypothetical "complete pagan" so as to give us a profile with which to work from.
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    Offline Cera

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    Re: Help for pagans
    « Reply #3 on: September 08, 2018, 03:57:09 PM »
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    • If the pagan has issues with his/her parents, or abuse issues, or abandonment issues, a much different approach is needed. Also, what is the intellectual level of the person?
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    Re: Help for pagans
    « Reply #4 on: September 08, 2018, 06:56:48 PM »
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    • Radio Replies covers a wide range of topics for skeptics to Protestants. Could get someone thinking.
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    Re: Help for pagans
    « Reply #5 on: September 08, 2018, 07:37:38 PM »
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    • This person is a college grad, father of three
    And has a good income. Maybe he believes in God but hates religion.
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    Offline Last Tradhican

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    Re: Help for pagans
    « Reply #6 on: September 09, 2018, 03:05:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: 007 on September 08, 2018, 07:08:26 AM
    What book would you recommend a complete pagan to read that would lead him to the faith?
    If he is a man give him the book Hostage to the Devil by Malachi Martin.  I doubt he'll read anything that explains the Faith that you give him. But this book is a different story.  If he has the intestinal fortitude, the manliness, to read just a little of it, it will shock him into the reality that there is a spirit world and that we are powerless in it without the true Faith. Most men will never go past the first story in the book as it will scare them to death, though they will not tell you that. You won't get immediate results, but he will never forget it. Someday it will lead him to the only truth, the Catholic Faith lived. It is rare to find a Catholic today that truly lives the faith.

    "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom" (Prov 9:10)
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    Re: Help for pagans
    « Reply #7 on: September 09, 2018, 08:42:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on September 09, 2018, 03:05:09 AM
    If he is a man give him the book Hostage to the Devil by Malachi Martin.  I doubt he'll read anything that explains the Faith that you give him. But this book is a different story.  If he has the intestinal fortitude, the manliness, to read just a little of it, it will shock him into the reality that there is a spirit world and that we are powerless in it without the true Faith. Most men will never go past the first story in the book as it will scare them to death, though they will not tell you that. You won't get immediate results, but he will never forget it. Someday it will lead him to the only truth, the Catholic Faith lived. It is rare to find a Catholic today that truly lives the faith.

    "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom" (Prov 9:10)
    P.S.- If you are a woman, you can't give him that book like you read it yourself, for there are some detailed immoralities described by the devils that are being exorcized in the book. You can tell him that the book was recommended by a Catholic engineer that was a man of the world, for him another man of the world. It is not for a woman to read, and you make it clear to him that you know nothing about what is in the book.
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    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24
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