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Offline Mercyandjustice

Re: Head Coverings
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 12:22:17 PM »
Quote from: rosenley on October 14, 2018, 08:35:56 PM
Ideally, I see nothing wrong with a woman, whenever she ought to pray, covering her head with a head covering. It was popular in Ireland before the Council, along with some other Eastern European Catholic countries.

1 Corinthians 11 is speaking about the need for women to wear veils out of submission to their husband/father (whoever is their superior). Here is the passage before verse four:

Also, 1 Corinthians 11:7-10:

1 Corinthians 11 is stressing the importance of females veiling as a sign of submission to their head. St. Paul purposefully uses the term "head" while describing the male-female relationship because the "head" refers to both the real human head and the head of the created hierarchy. Covering the female head is the recognition of their place before men, as being constructed of man rather than being built in the image of God. Bishops, Priests, and Monks visibly submit to God with their dress (cassocks, habits, etc.) and do not cover their head in submission to other men (the opposite of why women are commanded to cover their head, and why men aren't commanded to cover their head). Clerics and lay brothers cover their head solely out of reverence and adoration for Our Lord (women can do this too, but it's more precise to say they veil out of submission).
So should men always remove hats or hoods or other things on their heads when they pray? Or only in a church building? 
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Offline poche

Re: Head Coverings
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2018, 12:19:17 AM »
Women who wear veils report that they are more respected overall than when they did not wear them.
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Offline rosenley

Re: Head Coverings
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2018, 02:18:53 AM »
Quote from: Mercyandjustice on October 16, 2018, 12:22:17 PM
So should men always remove hats or hoods or other things on their heads when they pray? Or only in a church building?
I'd say it depends on the circuмstances and if wearing the hat is required. For example, some men in the military may have to wear a hat (in my country, a beret) while in uniform. If they wish to attend Mass in uniform or need to go to confession before training and they have no time to change, it becomes a necessity and can't be circuмvented.
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Offline AMDGJMJ

Re: Head Coverings
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2018, 10:00:17 AM »
Quote from: rosenley on October 17, 2018, 02:18:53 AM
I'd say it depends on the circuмstances and if wearing the hat is required. For example, some men in the military may have to wear a hat (in my country, a beret) while in uniform. If they wish to attend Mass in uniform or need to go to confession before training and they have no time to change, it becomes a necessity and can't be circuмvented.
I have known many military traditional Catholics. They always have taken their hats off when entering a church but replaced them as soon as leaving the church.  
Obviously, though, the requirement to "Pray always" does not mean that women will always be veiled when they pray of that men will never have their heads covered.  If a military man was to say a quick prayer while in battle he may not have the time to take his hat off.  Or a woman who does not have a hat may wish to say a quick prayer, but not having a head covering should not keep her from doing so.  I think the idea is that if it is public prayer then the saying is to be applied.
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Offline rosenley

Re: Head Coverings
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2018, 05:23:12 PM »
Quote from: AMDGJMJ on October 17, 2018, 10:00:17 AM
I have known many military traditional Catholics. They always have taken their hats off when entering a church but replaced them as soon as leaving the church.  
In some countries (such as mine), it violates the dress code if a soldier were to remove his beret. What I know is that in the US enlisted men can wear a "patrol cap" while in uniform, and not be in violation if they were to take it off. However, in my country, it's a requirement the Army doesn't overlook or excuse based on religion.  
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