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Offline InfiniteFaith

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« Reply #45 on: September 18, 2011, 05:08:56 PM »
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  • Here is the first page of genealogy docuмent that I have. This particular docuмent is 7 pages long, and links my lineage to "William the Conqueror" and "Robert II, King of France". If you really want to see all of it I will post it. But for now I will post just the first page. If you look right above where it says "Ancestry of Louis D'Amours" you will see where it says "very few French-Canadian Lines seem to trace back to Charlemagne". I personally have only seen like 6 of them. The D'Amours being the most prominent.


    Also, here is a book about the D'Amours family. If you look on page 2 you will see, "An early D'Amours saved Saint Louis' a.k.a. Louis IX's life c. 1246 during the "Noble's Revolt" and the King rewarded him and also...." http://www.reocities.com/daniellla.geo/damours.html

    I think this is interesting considering the following prophecy...

    "He will he a Catholic, a descendent of Louis IX, yet a descendant of an ancient imperial German family, horn in exile, he will rule supreme."

    Like I said before...I have proven lineage to the Capetian Dynasty (Robert II) which is Louis IX's great great great great grandfather. I don't, however, have anything linking me directly to Louis IX, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were possible.

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    « Reply #46 on: September 18, 2011, 05:10:16 PM »
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    Do you have any idea how common eagle noses are in Southern France, how common Roman noses are in Romance countries ?  The whole nobility of France has Carolingian descent, especially the Capetian dynasty, the founder of which was a close relative of the last Carlovingian King of the Franks.  Why do you believe that being "descended from Charlemagne" (which places you in the company of the majority of Western Europe, who are also said to be so descended) somehow makes you a direct Carlovingian ?  Would you have rights to the throne of France, putting aside the very explicit laws that make this impossible, superior to the rights of all of the Bourbon men, who populate the royal houses of France, Spain, The Two Sicilies, and Portugal, as well as the ducal houses of Parma, Luxembourg, and Orléans, and whose numbers are close to two hundred persons ?

    No, of course not.  I'm not sure you are very familiar with how feudal and Roman law actually work.  I am sorry, but the odds of somebody from the House of Bourbon, a junior branch of the Capetian dynasty -- which closely (perhaps the most closely of all lines) descends from Charlemagne and has reigned for over 1,000 years -- having an aquiline (Roman) nose are pretty high, given all of the Spanish, Italian, Sicilian, Portuguese, and Southern French blood.  Which prophecy are you going off, anyway ?  Are you failir with the prophecies of Marie-Julie Jahenny ?


    What is an eagle nose? can you show me someone of French Decent who has one?


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    « Reply #47 on: September 18, 2011, 05:17:08 PM »
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    How can I help revive the French Monarchy?


    I understand how people may have the tendency at this point to make fun of me or make me feel like an idiot for all of this. I would probably want to do the same thing if someone else were doing this. But im just wondering what the odds are of all this and if there is some.....at least some....possibility here. If no then thats fine. But at least provide some reasoning.


    I am not making fun of you. I have ancestry. I guess the first thing I will do is learn French.



    I will be starting French next semester...I will take at least 2 semesters of it.


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    « Reply #50 on: September 19, 2011, 09:01:51 AM »
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    So tat der Mystiker von Bayern 'sieht' den Dritte Krieg vorher oder nach den WeltKriegen I und II?


    Irlmaier saw the World War III (which would only be ended by the Three Dark Days) coming at point 7 in his timetable from the 1950's. I think we entered stage 5 :

    1. First there's a economic vitality like never before.
    2. A lapse of faith follows, like never before.
    3. Then a corruption of morals, like never before.
    4. A huge number of strangers flood the country.
    5. It comes a big inflation. Paper money looses its value more and more.
    6. Soon follows the revolution.
    7. Then suddenly and overnight the Russians raid the West.


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    Due to my translation flaws let's quote him in his original German words:

    1. Zuerst kommt ein Wohlstand wie noch nie!
    2. Dann folgt ein Glaubensabfall wie noch nie zuvor.
    3. Darauf eine Sittenverderbnis wie noch nie.
    4. Alsdann kommt eine große Zahl fremder Leute ins Land.
    5. Es herrscht eine große Inflation. Das Geld verliert mehr und mehr an Wert.
    6. Bald darauf folgt die Revolution.
    7. Dann überfallen die Russen über Nacht den Westen.

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    « Reply #51 on: September 19, 2011, 09:23:46 AM »
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  • Thank you Chaz for your intelligent comments. I'm delighted to see another person on Cathinfo who appreciates Irlmaier.

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    Thank you Ethelred. A very good summary of Irlmaier. The first 2 links I had seen before, not the 3rd. I don't understand German though. Do you know of a translated version of that site?

    Not yet, but I'll open my eyes.

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    What I remember most of his prophecies are the "lightening" invasion of Europe, of how quick they will attack. It holds prominence with me because of 1) Pius X's prophecy of a pope being chased out of Rome by invaders (Russia?)and killed

    Very good point.

    Indeed there's this famous vision from St Pius X in 1909 when he saw in a daydream a future scenario with the Pope fleeing from Rome and with the dead bodies of his priests laying around.
    Shortly before his death St Pius X saw in another vision "the Russians attacking Geneva" (a town in northern Italy).

    This matches with Irlmaier who foresaw several Russian spearheads: one attacking the northern part of Italy south of the Alps, one attacking Austria via Vienna (oh dear!) and going to the west from there, whilst the remaining spearheads would attack several fronts in today's Germany.

    Irlmaier says the Russian attack will be all of a sudden and with nobody being prepared in Europe and USA. (He says as an example, that the Germans would sit in the tavern playing cards that night, when suddenly the Russians look through the window!).
    How can this be possible so fast? Well, I watched on RIA Novosti their newly created attack tanks which are attached to big parachutes and then thrown out of big planes. Within half an hour or so they're ready on the ground. How could these planes reach their destination behind the enemy lines undetected? I don't know, but maybe they use an EMP bomb over Europe to make the entire Europe go electronically blind. We'll see soon!


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    2) lends credence to Russia not being consecrated , unlike what the neo catholic sheep keep telling us.

    Chaz, that's the most excellent point. Indeed, Our Lady warned us from the errors coming from Russia to the whole world (beginning with 1917) in case it was not consecrated. And it was not until today. So the unconsecrated and hence communist (and/or anti-catholic) Russia could well be the Scourge of God to punish us lukewarm European catholics including the Newchurch which refused to do what Our Lady told the popes to do (by the way, this problem already begins before 1958).

    Btw, Irlmaier foresaw that although the Russian attack plus the defense battles would destroy most of Germany and other European parts (like the "Yellow Band" going from Prague to the East Sea), their entire army would be wiped out in the end (like: not one single Russian soldier would return to Russia). Some Asian people would use that chance and devastate Russia. But finally Russia would be occupied by Western soldiers (he saw Germans, I think) and pacified. (Maybe because of the then consecration of Russia by the new and real pope?)

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    It also corresponds to other prophecies that mention Russia raising the flag over Rome, Ven. Aiello most recently and her view of an unforeseen fire descending on the world, a 70 hour event (3 days of darkness) Sounds like other seers - Marie Julie Jahenny? Bl.Anna-Maria Taigi? Mother Elena Leonardi.

    Yes, the Three Dark Days exist in most catholic visions and prophecies.


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    You mentioned China invading the US. I remember that one and I distinctly remember reading that something will prevent China from advancing much past the West coast of No. America. One thing I can think of would be the "warning" although it could be totally different- speculation on my part.

    Yes, also Irlmaier foresaw that "The yellow Dragon" (China apparently) who together with Russia would attack West Europe and USA, would soon fall out with Russia.

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    Another item - the prophecy of England or Great Britian being unindated by water, submerged? Something about 7 centuries ago it was prophecied?

    Very possible. Most catholic visions overlap with each other over the centuries, because they've got the same source. :-)

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    Interesting about the nuclear bomb and England.

    Yes, Irlmaier foresaw it and then in 2008 the Russian-Jєωιѕн politician Schirinowski says basically the same in reality... What a coincidence.

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    « Reply #52 on: September 19, 2011, 08:33:09 PM »
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    I think Ron Conte is relatively unimportant, considering that he's just some layman who claims to be a theologian, which he isn't by a long shot.  His interpetations of the prophecies are truly bizarre and show a lack of familiarity with history and law.  Firstly, I want to point out that the thought that "the Eagle" refers to the United States is ridiculous, since the US could never participte in any Catholic order.  Only a Américain would consider it possible that "the Eagle" refers to his accursed country; it is far more likely that it refers to the King himself.  Secondly, the iea that the Monarch will be a Habsburg is absurd on its face, since the Monarch will be the King of France, and anybody besides a Bourbon ascending to the throne of lilies would be plainly illegal.  France fought for one hundred thirty years over the exact question of the succession of the Capetian dynasty, and strict agnatic primogeniture ís the fundamental law of succession without any ambiguity.  In fact, even Heaven became involved, sending Ste. Jeanne d'Arc to "uphold the blood royal."  No, the Monarch will be the lawfully succeeding heir to the Crown of France, the most glorious Kingdom on earth besides Our Lord's own Kingdom, His Mystical Body.  Furthermore, the King will be a Bourbon and, in accordance with the prophecies of Marie-Julie Jahenny, the descendant of the holy martyrs Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette through the line of the Lost Dauphin, Louis XVII.


    Personally I don't give any credence to anything Ron Conte says.  

    I wouldn't rule out the Great Monarch being a Hapsburg.  The European royal families have intermarried for centuries and virtually any member of European royalty today can claim at least a distant relationship the to French throne.  Not all the prophecies about the Great Monarch say he will be French.  Some say he is of Spanish descent, others German and still others say French.  If you look at the Hapsburg family tree you'll see that today's descendants have French, Spanish and German blood in their lineage.  

    St. Bridget of Sweden (14th Century)

    "This most unhappy war will end, when an emperor of Spanish origin will be elected who will in a wonderful manner be victorious through the sign of the Cross...He will restore the Church in Santa Sophia [in Constantinople], and all the earth shall enjoy peace and prosperity; new cities will be erected in many places."  

    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus


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    « Reply #53 on: September 19, 2011, 08:48:31 PM »
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    I wouldn't rule out the Great Monarch being a Hapsburg.  The European royal families have intermarried for centuries and virtually any member of European royalty today can claim at least a distant relationship the to French throne.  Not all the prophecies about the Great Monarch say he will be French.  Some say he is of Spanish descent, others German and still others say French.  If you look at the Hapsburg family tree you'll see that today's descendants have French, Spanish and German blood in their lineage.  

    St. Bridget of Sweden (14th Century)

    "This most unhappy war will end, when an emperor of Spanish origin will be elected who will in a wonderful manner be victorious through the sign of the Cross...He will restore the Church in Santa Sophia [in Constantinople], and all the earth shall enjoy peace and prosperity; new cities will be erected in many places."  



    All those with legitimate claims to the Spanish throne are all Bourbons, which would make them French.
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


    TEJANO AND PROUD!

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    « Reply #54 on: September 19, 2011, 09:14:53 PM »
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    Nice of you to admit, Ethelred, that there will be a French king "too" ( only the greatest king in the history of the world with God-like power ) --

    Salve Raoul. Apparently we're talking about different monarchs. In the German-speaking visions like Irlmaier and related ones like the Lime Tree Poem, there's usually always mentioned the rise of several catholic monarchies after the Three Dark Days, but the time is not the end of days. These are "just" catholic monarchs blessed by the restored Church. Good monarchs for sure, because the Three Dark Days are a big purification. One of these monarchs is the so called great emperor of the catholic united German-speaking people, consecrated by the fled Pope (because of war in Italy) in a big cathedral -- some visions say it's Cologne which miraculously survived the World War III (while the land around Cologne is devastated). According to these visions other countries will also get catholic kings again. This is what I meant: Surely France will become a monarchy again, then. But apparently he's not yet the Great King you're talking about.

    Although I've never heard yet from a French Great Monarch with God-like power, it sounds like the end of days.


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    You are a good translator, Ethelred. Why don't you translate the whole thing? I liked your "touched to the quick" for "bis ins Mark getroffen." Nicely done, you used a more idiomatic phrase while I translated it literally.

    Thank you. Since I didn't find a translation so far, I'll have to try myself. Could take some time, though.


    Here's an approved prophecy that states that there will be twelve kings ruling alongside the Great Monarch.

    St. Francis of Paula (15th Century)

    "From your lordship, (here he is speaking of a future descendant), shall be born the great leader of the holy militia of the Holy Spirit, which shall overcome the world, and shall possess the earth so completely that no king or lord shall be able to exist, except he belongs to the Sacred Host of the Holy Spirit. These devout men shall wear on their breasts, and much more within their hearts, the sign of the living God, namely, the cross. He shall destroy all tyrants and heresies. There will be one fold and one shepherd. He shall reign until the end of time. On the whole earth there will be twelve Kings, one Emperor and one Pope."
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus

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    « Reply #55 on: September 19, 2011, 09:40:16 PM »
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  • Rowofvoices9, I do rule out a Habsburg ruling over the throne of France, since it would be plainly illegal.  The relations between different royal families does not establish a casual familial estate that allows for the exchange of realms between relatives.  The marriages and the succession of all issue that proceed therefrom are integrated into the solid framework of laws; in France, the land chosen by the Sacred Heart and ruled by the Eldest Son of the Church in an unbroken line of 1,500+ years, one must be the eldest male of the Capetian dynasty, born in legitimate sacramental wedlock.  There is no appeal to this law whatsoever, since it has been consecrated with the blood of hundreds of thousands of Frenchmen, as well as divine favour as shown in miracles, whether Ste. Jeanne d'Arc or the King's ability to cure scrofula.

    Now, the line of Louis XVII descends from two martyrs, Louis XVI and Marie-Antoinette.  The former is a son of Saint Louis and descends from Louis XIV, to whom was consigned the great designs and predilection of Heaven for the triumph of the Eldest Son of the Church by the Sacred Heart, or rather the triumph of the Sacred Heart of the Great King of Heaven through the King who is His Spouse's Eldest Son and His lieutenant.  The latter coms from the House of Lorraine (popularly called Habsburg), which ruled over Austria since the end of the Habsburgs proper until the unjust demise of that august throne and its saintly custodian, Karl I of Austria-Hungary.  So, if it's any consolation for those many Anglophones who are, naturally, prejudiced against France and the French, the hidden descendant of the Lost Dauphin is part Habsburg, since Louis XVII was a quarter Habsburg through his maternal grandmother.  Rowofvoices9, I do not know if you are prejudiced in this way and will assume otherwise, but I must make it clear to all here that there will never be any King of France who is not a Bourbon until the whole Capetian dynasty expires, in accordance with the fundamental laws of the Kingdom.


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    « Reply #56 on: September 19, 2011, 10:09:21 PM »
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  • In reference to my last post, that is to say, any so-called King of France who is not the successor according to the fundamental laws of the Kingdom (in this case, strict agnatic primogeniture -- the Salic law) is not the King of France; rather, he is the head of a new juridical entity that is wholly distinct from, separate from, incongruent with, and exclusive to the Kingdom of France.  Such an exclusion of the power of the laws of the Kingdom destroys them, erecting an entirely different edifice -- of foreign character -- atop the rubble, from which might be heard the muffled cries of the heroic Poitevin martyrs in their mass graves under the killing fields in the West, or the echoes of the King-Martyr and his holy wife amongst the warm glow of the stones of Saint-Denis basilica.

    And InfiniteFaith, these words apply to you, who I apparently have not yet convinced of the overwhelming probability that you are not the Great Monarch or royalty.  If you want to follow in the steps of your forefathers, who served Saint Louis, a King of the Capetian dynasty (which, if your name is not Bourbon, is something to which you do not belong), then you should serve the King, who is per se the eldest of the Bourbons.  Show me one saint or even one person from the past 1,000 years who seriously and sanely believed that the Capetian dynasty did not have, by the grace of God, true lawful rights to the French Crown, and then we can consider your case.

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    « Reply #57 on: September 20, 2011, 11:08:26 AM »
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  • Look at Generation #25 in IMG_0007 that I posted earlier in this thread. You will see Henry II de Sully. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_de_Sully

    If you look at who he married you will see Marie de Dampierre...it also mentions who her parents were. Please note the last name of her mother. Thats the best I can do as far as Bourbon goes.

    Yeah your right...I am not the Great Monarch.....unless all of the french royalty is killed in world war 3 or something. Then I might have a chance. Especially since I have 3 lines that come together in Generation #4 and #5.

    I hope at least that if all of the prophecies come true that I can play a role in this somehow...perhaps I could be an ambassador for Quebec to the Emperor or be some kind of baron or noble in France. That would be cool.

    I do feel I have enough Carolingian blood in me for something like that.

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    « Reply #58 on: September 20, 2011, 01:50:47 PM »
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    I do feel I have enough Carolingian blood in me for something like that.


    You're quite the odd-ball. But who here isn't?! I just hope you're no troll!

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    « Reply #59 on: September 20, 2011, 07:19:02 PM »
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    I do feel I have enough Carolingian blood in me for something like that.


    You're quite the odd-ball. But who here isn't?! I just hope you're no troll!


    An odd ball with a bit of reason.