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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Gloria Patri during Passiontide?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2023, 01:23:04 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on March 29, 2023, 12:30:07 PM
Yes, I think that if people are splitting the Rosary up into 5 decades per day of the week, the typical rotation would be --

Monday: Joyful
Tuesday: Sorrowful
Wednesday:  Glorious
Thursday: Joyful
Friday: Sorrowful
Saturday:  Glorious
Sunday: per the season

So that "extra" on Sunday would be determined by the season, which would be Sorrowful during Passiontide/Lent.

But I've never heard of anyone dropping the Joyful/Glorious entirely during Passiontide or Lent.
Maybe I'm wrong then.  I know that the CMRI priest this past Sunday mentioned the Sorrowful Mysteries during Passiontide.  Somewhere along the way I thought it was done for all of Lent.
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Offline Soubirous

Re: Gloria Patri during Passiontide?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2023, 01:41:03 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on March 29, 2023, 01:23:04 PM
Maybe I'm wrong then.  I know that the CMRI priest this past Sunday mentioned the Sorrowful Mysteries during Passiontide.  Somewhere along the way I thought it was done for all of Lent.

What Lad said. If one says five decades daily, then Monday through Saturday is the same rotation year-round, and Sunday is the day that varies according to the season. Hence on Easter Sunday, the Glorious Mysteries will replace the Sorrowful Mysteries of Lenten Sundays. (Yet if one says all fifteen decades every day, then there's no variation.)
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Offline TKGS

Re: Gloria Patri during Passiontide?
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2023, 07:33:17 PM »
I know a priest who said that the tradition he had grown up with is that only the Sorrowful Mysteries are said during Lent and Passiontide, while the Joyful Mysteries are said during Advent and Christmas.  But he also noted that he thought the tradition came from his Eastern European heritage and it was not, of course, a requirement.
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Offline trento

Re: Gloria Patri during Passiontide?
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2023, 09:02:22 PM »
Quote from: Soubirous on March 29, 2023, 12:10:14 PM
In Passiontide, this prayer is to be omitted during the Mass and other public liturgical devotions, but what about in the Rosary and other private devotions? If it is omitted privately, is there some other Trinitarian prayer used instead? Or is this optional in private devotions and I'm overthinking it? The sources I've been able to find aren't clear about this. Thanks.

It depends on local custom. Some replace the Gloria Patri in the rosary with the Christus factus est.

V: Christus factus est pro nobis obediens usque ad mortem
R: Mortem autem crucis

V: Christ became obedient for us even unto death
R: Even unto death on the cross
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Offline Plenus Venter

Re: Gloria Patri during Passiontide?
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2023, 12:33:27 AM »
Quote from: Soubirous on March 29, 2023, 12:10:14 PM
In Passiontide, this prayer is to be omitted during the Mass and other public liturgical devotions, but what about in the Rosary and other private devotions? If it is omitted privately, is there some other Trinitarian prayer used instead? Or is this optional in private devotions and I'm overthinking it? The sources I've been able to find aren't clear about this. Thanks.
The Gloria Patri is not completely removed even from the liturgical prayer during Passiontide. It is still said, for example, at the end of the Psalms in the Divine Office. We still pray it in the Rosary. Just as we don't veil in violet all the holy pictures in our homes! Interesting custom Trento refers to though, I wonder when and where that originated?
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