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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Gloria Patri during Passiontide?
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2023, 05:32:08 AM »
Quote from: TKGS on March 29, 2023, 07:33:17 PM
I know a priest who said that the tradition he had grown up with is that only the Sorrowful Mysteries are said during Lent and Passiontide, while the Joyful Mysteries are said during Advent and Christmas.  But he also noted that he thought the tradition came from his Eastern European heritage and it was not, of course, a requirement.
OK, so my memory isn't gone completely yet!  I just wish I could remember when/where *I* originally got the idea for Lent.  I did get the impression that this is what is done, so I probably misunderstood whenever I did hear this. Personally, I think it makes sense to focus completely on the Sorrowful Mysteries during Lent.

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Offline Mithrandylan

Re: Gloria Patri during Passiontide?
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2023, 07:32:23 AM »
Quote from: trento on March 29, 2023, 09:02:22 PM
It depends on local custom. Some replace the Gloria Patri in the rosary with the Christus factus est.

V: Christus factus est pro nobis obediens usque ad mortem
R: Mortem autem crucis

V: Christ became obedient for us even unto death
R: Even unto death on the cross
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I like this very much. Where is it a custom?
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In private devotions, I have historically omitted the Gloria Patri during Passiontide rosaries (though never under the impression this was a requirement). This year I have not, mostly since I have small children who are getting used to praying the rosary and I didn't want to confuse them. But having a prayer to substitute for the Gloria Patri might work better than omitting it altogether. 
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Offline Kazimierz

Re: Gloria Patri during Passiontide?
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2023, 04:26:44 PM »
Within the Divine Office, one sees the lessening use of the Gloria Patri as we progress through Passiontide and Holy Week. By Maundy Thursday I believe they disappear altogether.

I was substituting the Gloria Patri with another old liturgical acclamation, but I do recall the saying of Christus obediens.

Thanks for mentioning that Trento. :smirk: I will use that for the rest of these days until Easter.

Practice here for the Rosary is saying only Joyful or Sorrowful mysteries in Lent up until Passiontide starts, then it is Sorrowful until Easter.
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Offline trento

Re: Gloria Patri during Passiontide?
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2023, 09:50:17 PM »
I also recall at wakes and funerals where the Gloria Patri of the Rosary is replaced by the Requiem aeternam.
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Offline Miseremini

Re: Gloria Patri during Passiontide?
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2023, 11:05:03 PM »
Quote from: TKGS on March 29, 2023, 07:33:17 PM
I know a priest who said that the tradition he had grown up with is that only the Sorrowful Mysteries are said during Lent and Passiontide, while the Joyful Mysteries are said during Advent and Christmas.  But he also noted that he thought the tradition came from his Eastern European heritage and it was not, of course, a requirement.
This was the way the rosary was prayed in the Latin Rite before 1965. It can be found in the prayer books Mother Love and the Ideal Missal and others up till then. 
The purpose of praying the rosary this way is that it keeps you connected to the liturgical season of the church.

METHOD OF SAYING THE ROSARY WITH THE BEADS.


Taking your beads in your right hand, by the medal or
cross, bless yourself, and say, "In the name of the
Father,"&c. Then recite, by way of introduction, the
Creed,  1 Pater, 3 Aves, and 1 Gloria; after which you
go on with the meditation of the mysteries and the
recitation of the decades as follows;

The Five Joyful Mysteries are to be said on Mondays  and
Thursdays throughout the year; and daily from the first
Sunday of Advent until the feast of the Purification.

The Five Sorrowful Mysteries are to be said on
Tuesdays and Fridays throughout the year; and daily
from Ash Wednesday until Holy Saturday.

The Five Glorious Mysteries are to be said on Wednesdays
and Saturdays and Sundays throughout the year
and daily from Easter Sunday until Trinity Sunday.

Taken from the Raccolta 1858


Quote from: 2Vermont on March 30, 2023, 05:32:08 AM
OK, so my memory isn't gone completely yet!  I just wish I could remember when/where *I* originally got the idea for Lent.  I did get the impression that this is what is done, so I probably misunderstood whenever I did hear this. Personally, I think it makes sense to focus completely on the Sorrowful Mysteries during Lent.
It's been mentioned and discussed a few times here on Ci.  Your memory's just fine, you remembered the important stuff.
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