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« on: June 04, 2013, 03:03:00 AM »
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  • Three things made Francis of Caracciolo stand out from his wealthy Neapolitan friends: he was powerfully drawn to our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, he fasted every Saturday in honor of the Virgin Mary, and he had a generous love for the poor. When he was seriously ill at the age of twenty-two, he vowed that if he were cured he would devote himself to the service of God and his fellow men. He became a priest and in 1588 joined the order of Minor Clerks Regular. Francis instituted perpetual adoration as one of the works of his Order. According to the 1962 Missal of Bl. John XXIII the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, today is his feast. It is also the feast of Our Lady, Queen of Apostles.

    http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/liturgicalyear/calendar/day.cfm?date=2013-06-04


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    « Reply #1 on: June 04, 2013, 03:43:40 AM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    of Bl. John XXIII

    The conciliar Newpope John XXIII is no Blessed, but a modernistic Newblessed. That's a very important difference. Let's never confuse it.
    Poche, please stop your Newchurch propaganda. Better use traditional Catholic reading:  


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    Eleison Comments 195 (9 April 2011)

    Newchurch, Newblessed

    On May 1, in a few weeks' time, John-Paul II is due to be declared „Blessed“ by Benedict XVI amidst great celebration in St. Peter's Square in Rome. But Catholics clinging to Tradition know that John-Paul II, while being a great promoter of the Conciliar Church, was an effective destroyer of the Catholic Church. How then can he be called „Blessed“, the last step before being canonized, when Church canonizations are infallible? The swift answer is that John-Paul II will not be beatified as a Catholic Blessed by a Catholic beatification in the Catholic Church, but as a Newblessed by a Newbeatification in the Newchurch. And Newchurchmen are the first to claim novelty, the last to claim infallibility, for what they do.

    Let us illustrate the nature of the Newchurch by a comparison drawn from modern life. Pure gasoline (petrol) smells, tastes and acts like gasoline. On it a car can run. Pure water smells, tastes and acts like water. On it a car cannot run. Gasoline mixed with surprisingly little water may still smell and taste like gasoline, but it no longer acts like gasoline – on it a car cannot run. The water has taken away its combustibility.

    Pure gasoline is comparable to pure Catholicism – highly combustible! Pure water in our comparison is like pure secular humanism, or the religion of globalism, with not a trace of Catholicism left in it. Now Catholicism and secular humanism were mixed together in the Second Vatican Council and in its 16 docuмents. So Conciliarism, or Newcatholicism, may still smell and taste like Catholicism, enough to make „good Catholics“ expect Conciliar beatifications to be on their way to infallibility, as were beatifications in the pre-Conciliar Church, but in reality a small admixture of secular humanism has been enough to stop the Catholicism from functioning, just as it takes not too much water to stop gasoline from combusting.

    Thus Newbeatifications may taste and smell to unwary Catholic nostrils like Catholic beatifications, but on closer examination it is clear that Newbeatifications are not at all the same reality. Famous example: a Catholic beatification used to require two distinct miracles, while a Newbeatification requires only one. And the rules for a Newbeatification are significantly relaxed in other ways as well. Therefore no Catholic should expect anything other than a Newblessed to emerge from a Newbeatification. John-Paul II was indeed a Conciliar „Blessed“.

    What deceives Catholics is the elements of Catholicism that still remain in the Conciliar Church. But just as Vatican II was designed to replace Catholicism (pure gasoline) with Conciliarism (gasoline-water), so Conciliarism is designed to give way to – let us call it – the Global Religion (pure water). The procession is from God to Newgod to Nongod. Right now we still have Newrome pushing the Newgod of Vatican II with Newblesseds to match, but before long sheer criminals will be the „Blesseds“ of the Nongod.

    However, the true God will let no sheep be deceived that does not want to be deceived. Nor will he abandon any soul that has not first abandoned him, says St. Augustine. Marvellous quote!

    Kyrie eleison.

    Bishop Richard Williamson


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    « Reply #2 on: June 04, 2013, 04:03:48 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ethelred
    Quote from: poche
    of Bl. John XXIII

    The conciliar Newpope John XXIII is no Blessed, but a modernistic Newblessed. That's a very important difference. Let's never confuse it.
    Poche, please stop your Newchurch propaganda. Better use traditional Catholic reading:  


    ---
    Eleison Comments 195 (9 April 2011)

    Newchurch, Newblessed

    On May 1, in a few weeks' time, John-Paul II is due to be declared „Blessed“ by Benedict XVI amidst great celebration in St. Peter's Square in Rome. But Catholics clinging to Tradition know that John-Paul II, while being a great promoter of the Conciliar Church, was an effective destroyer of the Catholic Church. How then can he be called „Blessed“, the last step before being canonized, when Church canonizations are infallible? The swift answer is that John-Paul II will not be beatified as a Catholic Blessed by a Catholic beatification in the Catholic Church, but as a Newblessed by a Newbeatification in the Newchurch. And Newchurchmen are the first to claim novelty, the last to claim infallibility, for what they do.

    Let us illustrate the nature of the Newchurch by a comparison drawn from modern life. Pure gasoline (petrol) smells, tastes and acts like gasoline. On it a car can run. Pure water smells, tastes and acts like water. On it a car cannot run. Gasoline mixed with surprisingly little water may still smell and taste like gasoline, but it no longer acts like gasoline – on it a car cannot run. The water has taken away its combustibility.

    Pure gasoline is comparable to pure Catholicism – highly combustible! Pure water in our comparison is like pure secular humanism, or the religion of globalism, with not a trace of Catholicism left in it. Now Catholicism and secular humanism were mixed together in the Second Vatican Council and in its 16 docuмents. So Conciliarism, or Newcatholicism, may still smell and taste like Catholicism, enough to make „good Catholics“ expect Conciliar beatifications to be on their way to infallibility, as were beatifications in the pre-Conciliar Church, but in reality a small admixture of secular humanism has been enough to stop the Catholicism from functioning, just as it takes not too much water to stop gasoline from combusting.

    Thus Newbeatifications may taste and smell to unwary Catholic nostrils like Catholic beatifications, but on closer examination it is clear that Newbeatifications are not at all the same reality. Famous example: a Catholic beatification used to require two distinct miracles, while a Newbeatification requires only one. And the rules for a Newbeatification are significantly relaxed in other ways as well. Therefore no Catholic should expect anything other than a Newblessed to emerge from a Newbeatification. John-Paul II was indeed a Conciliar „Blessed“.

    What deceives Catholics is the elements of Catholicism that still remain in the Conciliar Church. But just as Vatican II was designed to replace Catholicism (pure gasoline) with Conciliarism (gasoline-water), so Conciliarism is designed to give way to – let us call it – the Global Religion (pure water). The procession is from God to Newgod to Nongod. Right now we still have Newrome pushing the Newgod of Vatican II with Newblesseds to match, but before long sheer criminals will be the „Blesseds“ of the Nongod.

    However, the true God will let no sheep be deceived that does not want to be deceived. Nor will he abandon any soul that has not first abandoned him, says St. Augustine. Marvellous quote!

    Kyrie eleison.

    Bishop Richard Williamson

    What does any of that have to do with the holiness of St Francis of Caracciolo? He lived long before Vatican II. He was known for his discernment and his love of the Blessed Virgin, his zeal for prayer and his spirit of penance.

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    « Reply #3 on: June 04, 2013, 04:14:28 AM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    What does any of that have to do with the

    My post corrected your wrong usage of the word "Blessed" for a Newblessed.

    This is appropriate on a traditional Catholic forum. Also you're giving so many cues for further Eleison Comments and similar Oldchurch readings. And I love posting them, so why not work together? Synergy teamwork.

    By the way, what do most of your Newchurch posts have to with the traditional Catholic forum CI anyway?

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    « Reply #4 on: June 04, 2013, 05:06:04 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ethelred
    Quote from: poche
    What does any of that have to do with the

    My post corrected your wrong usage of the word "Blessed" for a Newblessed.

    This is appropriate on a traditional Catholic forum. Also you're giving so many cues for further Eleison Comments and similar Oldchurch readings. And I love posting them, so why not work together? Synergy teamwork.

    By the way, what do most of your Newchurch posts have to with the traditional Catholic forum CI anyway?

    This person is a canonized saint. He was canonized in 1807. He was the founder of the Minor Clerks Regular.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 04, 2013, 05:17:53 AM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    This person is a canonized saint. He was canonized in 1807.

    Your Newblessed John XXIII wasn't.
    And I talked about him, since you gave the cue by mentioning him.

    It's simple: You're free to choose your topics with which you flood the traditional Catholic forum CI with, and I'm free to choose my corrections with which I correct your usual Newchurch talk.

    As said, let's see this as a chance: as the beginning of an interesting teamwork.

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    « Reply #6 on: June 04, 2013, 05:52:19 AM »
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  • You mean when the article mentioned his missal of 1962. that is themissal of the Traditional Latin Mass which is used by the SSPX. The article said that in that missal today is the feast of the Queenship of Mary.  

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    « Reply #7 on: June 04, 2013, 07:31:48 AM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    You mean when the article mentioned ...

    Well, you didn't even bother to use quotation marks, let alone the quote function, when you copy-pasted another assemble line flood post from your favourite non-Catholic Newchurch site (www.catholicculture.org). Why not dump the entire site here?

    Anyway, I was commenting what you wrote here, since why should I click your Newchurch links ? And you wrote, bold by me :

    Quote from: poche in his first thread's article
    According to the 1962 Missal of Bl. John XXIII the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, today is his feast.


    I really did miss that "extraordinary form" Newchurch nonsense. That would make a good cue, too! :-)  Anybody?


    The old trick of the hermeneutic of continuity poison: mixing truth (real saints in our example) with error (Newchurch nonsense aka Newblesseds, "extraordinary form" for Latin Mass, blah-blah).
    That's the poison of Vatican II. And that's also yours, Poche. And that's why you're an enemy of the faith, covering with some traditional fig-leafs. As are your friends, the Newpopes: wolves in sheep's clothing. Menzingen falls for this. We don't.


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    « Reply #8 on: June 04, 2013, 10:15:40 AM »
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  • Well said Ethelred. You Swiss are great defender's of the Faith.

    Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!

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    « Reply #9 on: June 04, 2013, 06:54:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    Three things made Francis of Caracciolo stand out from his wealthy Neapolitan friends: he was powerfully drawn to our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament, he fasted every Saturday in honor of the Virgin Mary, and he had a generous love for the poor. When he was seriously ill at the age of twenty-two, he vowed that if he were cured he would devote himself to the service of God and his fellow men. He became a priest and in 1588 joined the order of Minor Clerks Regular. Francis instituted perpetual adoration as one of the works of his Order. According to the 1962 Missal of Bl. John XXIII the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, today is his feast. It is also the feast of Our Lady, Queen of Apostles.

    http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/liturgicalyear/calendar/day.cfm?date=2013-06-04


     :incense:
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir