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Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #50 on: June 29, 2022, 03:48:46 PM »
Vigano, Lefebvre, St. Robert Bellarmine, St Paul the Apostle...
None of those men take a disrespectful and hostile attitude toward the Pope. And the last example is fallacious because St. Paul was rebuking another man named Peter, not St. Peter.

(not that you're honest enough to watch it)

Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #51 on: June 29, 2022, 04:08:53 PM »
None of those men take a disrespectful and hostile attitude toward the Pope. And the last example is fallacious because St. Paul was rebuking another man named Peter, not St. Peter.

(not that you're honest enough to watch it)


LOL!!

Was the cartoon above over your head?

Aside from that, can you explain to me how Lefebvre calling the pope an antichrist was done “without a disrespectful and hostile attitude toward the pope?”

:facepalm:


Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #52 on: June 29, 2022, 04:49:14 PM »
Yeah, yeah. You're obedient to your father until he says something you don't like and you reject it. Then you deal with your disobedience by concocting all kinds of theories about who your father really is and how that other guy who appears to be your "father" really isn't - thus keeping in tact your compliance with your warped sense of "obedience."

Take a hike with your "impious bastards" bit.

With all due respect, I find this analogy rather lacking...

Was your father elected? Do you get a new one when he dies? 

If your parents divorce in civil court and your mother "remarries", are you not allowed to question the legitimacy of this marriage? Can you not hold the opinion that this man is not your father, nor a legitimate authority figure to you? 

By this logic, it seems that your position may be that you should recognize him as being your legitimate new father but resist his authority. 

I tend to try to stay out of this topic (not my circus not my monkeys :laugh1:) but this did kinda stand out to me.

Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #53 on: June 29, 2022, 04:58:51 PM »
LOL!!

Was the cartoon above over your head?

Aside from that, can you explain to me how Lefebvre calling the pope an antichrist was done “without a disrespectful and hostile attitude toward the pope?”

:facepalm:
Your mockery shows your bad will.

I'd say that your idol +Lefebvre was completely confused on the matter and said a lot of things that can be seen as such, but also those which show a more obedient attitude.

Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #54 on: June 29, 2022, 05:23:20 PM »
With all due respect, I find this analogy rather lacking...

Was your father elected? Do you get a new one when he dies?

If your parents divorce in civil court and your mother "remarries", are you not allowed to question the legitimacy of this marriage? Can you not hold the opinion that this man is not your father, nor a legitimate authority figure to you?

By this logic, it seems that your position may be that you should recognize him as being your legitimate new father but resist his authority.

I tend to try to stay out of this topic (not my circus not my monkeys :laugh1:) but this did kinda stand out to me.

The analogy presumes the son acknowledges the father, so none of your expansionary disqualifies apply.