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Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2022, 09:56:41 AM »
This illustrates in very practical terms how pernicious and how non-Catholic your brand of R&R is.  It's not Catholic, but some kind of warped form of Old Catholicism, and you're in serious danger of losing your soul over it.

:facepalm::laugh2::laugh1:

You had better take a long hard look in the mirror.

Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2022, 10:02:36 AM »
How DARE +Lefebvre approve of such a disrespectful attitude about the Vicar!!!



Boy, “I would like to see what St. Pius X would have done to his impious ass!”


Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2022, 10:09:39 AM »
Nancy Peℓσѕι received holy communion today and met with Bergolio.

We all know she is in state of mortal sin.  She is such a stuck up witch that she elbows little girls.

Then again Bergolio slaps faithful Catholics.  Then kisses feet of heretics. 

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Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2022, 10:25:07 AM »
Since when does disagreement entitle one to be disrespectful and derogatory to the Vicar of Christ, you shameless heretic?  At best you're entitled to a respectful disagreement.  You guys are a bunch of impious bastards to speak of the man you claim to be the Vicar of Christ the way you do.

Yeah, yeah. You're obedient to your father until he says something you don't like and you reject it. Then you deal with your disobedience by concocting all kinds of theories about who your father really is and how that other guy who appears to be your "father" really isn't - thus keeping in tact your compliance with your warped sense of "obedience."

Take a hike with your "impious bastards" bit.

Re: Francis Issues Desiderio Desideravi on Mass
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2022, 10:26:30 AM »
Actually, we not only hear and participate, but we are there to assist at Mass. :cowboy:

I really do not want to get into the scrum that is going on here in this thread, but "assist", in this context, is a curious turn of phrase to the everyday English-speaker.  It seems that here, it is in the sense of the French assister à, which does not mean "help with" or "participate in", but rather, "attend".  There is a similar construction in Spanish.  It is a figure of speech peculiar to the traditional Mass, and for that reason, I use it assertively when referring to the Mass and my presence at it.  My son hears me use it liberally when, in homeschool religion class, I say that "we assist at the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass".  It's a shamelessly pre-Vatican II turn of phrase, and as such, is to be cherished and maintained.

We do not "assist" the priest --- he and the acolyte have got that entirely under control --- rather, we unite spiritually with the Holy Sacrifice, which is no way is dependent upon us for its proper celebration.  If you want to follow along in the missal and recite the acolyte's responses sotto voce, that's your prerogative --- Pope St Pius X urged us to "pray the Mass" (no quarrel with that, far from it) --- but such recitation is entirely optional and adds nothing to the Mass.