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Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2024, 12:16:03 PM »
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    • Here is a sketch: St. Gertrude the Great arrangements : Wednesday, Dec. 11 4-8 pm visitation, Vespers at 5 pm. Then  7:30 pm rosary
    Thursday , Dec. 12  am Matins, 10 am Pontifical RequiemMass, 12:30 Burial at Gate of Heaven Cemetery and luncheon follows at church.  From Parish Office Staff
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #16 on: December 06, 2024, 11:03:05 AM »
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    • Why is it taking that funeral home so long to put together an obituary?
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #17 on: December 06, 2024, 07:29:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on December 06, 2024, 11:03:05 AM
    Why is it taking that funeral home so long to put together an obituary?

    I happened to think just now, maybe the local Newchurch parish (or even diocese) is leaning on the funeral home not to present him as a legitimate Catholic priest, or perhaps there's a hootin'-hollerin' Novus Ordo cheerleader in the funeral home management who is struggling with how to deal with this situation.
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #18 on: December 06, 2024, 11:05:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on Today at 11:03:05 AM
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    Why is it taking that funeral home so long to put together an obituary?


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    I happened to think just now, maybe the local Newchurch parish (or even diocese) is leaning on the funeral home not to present him as a legitimate Catholic priest, or perhaps there's a hootin'-hollerin' Novus Ordo cheerleader in the funeral home management who is struggling with how t  deal with this situation.
    I did a quick search and it is the same funeral home that handled the arrangements for
    Father Anthony Cekada https://www.muellerfunerals.com/obituaries?query=Cekada
    and Bishop Daniel Dolan https://www.muellerfunerals.com/obituaries?query=Dolan
    so I doubt the reason the obituary for Father Thielen is still pending on the funeral home website due to pressure from the diocese. 

    I don't know what family Father Thielen has.  Washington, where I live, is rather strict about who can control the funeral rites and final disposition for a deceased person, and the legal order is not easily overturned unless the deceased arranged things themself before they died, a good reason to make one's own arrangements ahead of time.  Usually a funeral home won't publish an obituary or service information without authorization from whomever has the authority to do so.   I don't know what the situation is in Ohio.  The church is free to publish the services they have scheduled, that is a different situation than what might affect the funeral home.
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    Re: Fr. James Theilen of Ohio
    « Reply #19 on: December 06, 2024, 11:40:51 PM »
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    • Mechanicsburg is also quite a distance from either of that funeral home's locations (Mason and Middletown), just eyeballing it, probably every bit of 50 miles.  Evidently the owners are sympathetic to traditional Catholicism, which no doubt informed that choice for Fr Thielen.  
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #20 on: December 09, 2024, 09:01:06 AM »
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    • It still says "obituary pending" on the Mueller funeral home website.
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #21 on: December 10, 2024, 09:19:36 AM »
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    • https://www.muellerfunerals.com/obituaries/fr-james-thielen

    While there is still no obituary posted, the funeral home has posted the service information for Father James Thielen.

    Funeral homes don't automatically write obituaries the way a newspaper may put together a news story.  They can compose an obituary from information provided by the family, and then have the family approve it, making alternations as requested.  Families often write the obituary and provide it to the funeral home to put on their website and submit to local papers.  The funeral home is available to proofread and edit the obituary if asked to, but typically nothing is published unless authorized by the family.  
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #22 on: December 11, 2024, 02:07:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: moneil on December 10, 2024, 09:19:36 AM
    https://www.muellerfunerals.com/obituaries/fr-james-thielen

    While there is still no obituary posted, the funeral home has posted the service information for Father James Thielen.

    Funeral homes don't automatically write obituaries the way a newspaper may put together a news story.  They can compose an obituary from information provided by the family, and then have the family approve it, making alternations as requested.  Families often write the obituary and provide it to the funeral home to put on their website and submit to local papers.  The funeral home is available to proofread and edit the obituary if asked to, but typically nothing is published unless authorized by the family. 

    I wonder whether, given the funeral home's past care of Bishop Dolan and Father Cekada, someone associated with SGG could supply obituary information, and have them publish an obituary using that.  It's not clear that Father Thielen had any immediate family still living.
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #23 on: December 12, 2024, 02:57:49 PM »
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    • Bp McGuire had this to say in this week's bulletin:


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    Well, you wouldn’t necessarily know it unless you were among the clergy, but Fr. Thielen was unanimously thought of as the one who was the best at taking care of the sick. That was his special grace, given to him by the Sacred Heart of Jesus. No one was better at it than him. Ask any priest from my generation or the previous generation and you will get the same answer.

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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #24 on: December 13, 2024, 05:02:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on December 11, 2024, 02:07:23 PM
    I wonder whether, given the funeral home's past care of Bishop Dolan and Father Cekada, someone associated with SGG could supply obituary information, and have them publish an obituary using that.  It's not clear that Father Thielen had any immediate family still living.
    I noticed on the funeral home site that it says obituary pending.  Maybe they have one coming but it just isn't ready yet?  

    May he rest in peace. 🙏
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #25 on: December 13, 2024, 10:37:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: AMDGJMJ on December 13, 2024, 05:02:05 AM
    I noticed on the funeral home site that it says obituary pending.  Maybe they have one coming but it just isn't ready yet? 

    May he rest in peace. 🙏
    It wouldn't be "pending" for a week.

    My guess is that the funeral home has a policy that obituary information has to be supplied by the family, and they have not been able to find any immediate or near-immediate family members to sign off on it.
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #26 on: December 14, 2024, 05:20:15 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on December 13, 2024, 10:37:19 AM
    It wouldn't be "pending" for a week.

    My guess is that the funeral home has a policy that obituary information has to be supplied by the family, and they have not been able to find any immediate or near-immediate family members to sign off on it.
    Ah!  I understand.   :incense:
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #27 on: December 21, 2024, 10:35:50 AM »
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    • It's looking like there's not going to be an obituary.

    Again, the funeral home may have some kind of iron-clad rule, that only the family can supply information, in which case I have to assume that Bishop Dolan and Father Cekada had family members who were able to confirm their information.
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #28 on: December 22, 2024, 05:02:58 PM »
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    • Simpleman:  In the town of Huntington, IN I go to the Huntington TAB newspaper online/  This is my home town from childhood.  This newspaper will not put in their newspapers obits till a week or 2 weeks later.  Hm?  This has been going on for several years.  My sister sings at the requiem masses.  She says the only way she knows of a death, is being at the church to hear about it.  Hm?
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    Re: Fr. James Theilin of Ohio
    « Reply #29 on: December 22, 2024, 05:13:38 PM »
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    • Quote from: songbird on December 22, 2024, 05:02:58 PM
    Simpleman:  In the town of Huntington, IN I go to the Huntington TAB newspaper online/  This is my home town from childhood.  This newspaper will not put in their newspapers obits till a week or 2 weeks later.  Hm?  This has been going on for several years.  My sister sings at the requiem masses.  She says the only way she knows of a death, is being at the church to hear about it.  Hm?
    That's really strange.  Obituaries usually go in the paper two or three days after someone dies.  In small towns, people would be more likely to know someone who has died, and would want to hear the news.
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