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Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
« on: February 14, 2021, 06:17:39 PM »
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  • I don't remember the prayer exactly -- but I remember enough so that the "other versions" seem completely foreign.

    Long story short, I'd like to use the S.T.A.S. seminary version of the Latin "O My Jesus" Fatima prayer when we pray the Rosary in Latin (which we want to do, at least occasionally).

    Does anyone have it handy?

    I probably have it out in the shed, in my seminary papers box. But it's buried and would be hard to find.

    Thanks for any help in advance --

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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #1 on: February 14, 2021, 07:07:49 PM »
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  • Nostris, O Jesu débitis indúlge, érue nos ab ígnibus inférni, cœlíque portas univérsis pande, miséris præsértim.


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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #2 on: February 14, 2021, 07:09:53 PM »
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  • I still remember it because I tend to pray the Rosary in Latin.  I did cheat, however, to look up all the accent marks.

    Now, there's another version floating around out there also:
    O mi Jesu, dimitte nobis debita nostra, libera nos ab igne inferni, conduc in caelum omnes animas, praesertim illas quae maxime indigent misericordia tua.

    I doubt that there's an "official" version, and I bet that both are just translations by amateurs, since I don't believe this is any official prayer of the Church.

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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #3 on: February 15, 2021, 07:05:00 AM »
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  • Ladilaus is quite correct about no official Latin version existing for the Rosary "Fatima" prayer. This prayer originated in Portuguese, and does not pertain to the normative prayers for the Rosary. Like Wojtyła's Illuminati Mysteries, it's inclusion in the Rosary is purely discretionary. Unlike Wojyła's Illuminati Mysteries, I have no scruple against its use and always include the Fatima prayer at the end of a decade.

    BTW, who remembers the photocopied prayer sheets from STAS upon which the Rosary Prayers and the post-Rosary Prayer to St. Joseph were found? Or, remember the black, spiral-bound choral Office books?
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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #4 on: February 15, 2021, 05:24:53 PM »
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  • Now, there's another version floating around out there also:
    O mi Jesu, dimitte nobis debita nostra, libera nos ab igne inferni, conduc in caelum omnes animas, praesertim illas quae maxime indigent misericordia tua.
    This is what I learned.  I have been told that there has never been an official Latin version of this prayer approved by the Vatican.


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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #5 on: February 15, 2021, 05:35:37 PM »
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  • BTW, who remembers the photocopied prayer sheets from STAS upon which the Rosary Prayers and the post-Rosary Prayer to St. Joseph were found? Or, remember the black, spiral-bound choral Office books?


    Absolutely.

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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #6 on: February 15, 2021, 06:42:53 PM »
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  • Well, if we're strolling down memory lane, does anyone recall the bishop's private chapel on the 2nd floor?  Did it have a blue fleur-de-lis ceiling?  I always loved that chapel, but the only time I was ever allowed in it was for the 1st week we arrived at the seminary for our Ignatian retreat.  Never saw it again after that.

    PS: How about that seminary bread Scott made?  That was the best ever.
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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #7 on: February 15, 2021, 07:13:44 PM »
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  • The Ladislaus version mentioned is what I learnt whilst I was a lay apostle with the Society ages ago.

    Before that I recall the Polish version recited at the Rosary before Mass:

    O mój Jezu przebacz nam nasze grzechy, zachowaj nas od ognia piekielnego, zaprowadz wszystkie dusze do nieba, a szczególnie te, które najbardziej potrzebuja Twojego milosierdzia.

    Perhaps you remember this one Sean, and other Polish blooded members here?

    Paczki tomorrow if you can! (Polish doughnuts)
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster


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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #8 on: February 15, 2021, 08:25:27 PM »
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  • Well, if we're strolling down memory lane, does anyone recall the bishop's private chapel on the 2nd floor?  Did it have a blue fleur-de-lis ceiling?  I always loved that chapel, but the only time I was ever allowed in it was for the 1st week we arrived at the seminary for our Ignatian retreat.  Never saw it again after that.

    PS: How about that seminary bread Scott made?  That was the best ever.

    It convinced me to get a bread machine shortly after I got a job again and moved to Texas, got married, etc. I managed to find a good replacement/recipe for the white bread and the cinnamon raisin bread (remember the loaf for every seminarian to take home at Christmas and Easter?), but the other types I haven't yet found a good recipe for. Namely, the barley, the sourdough, and the whole wheat.

    My son and a couple of my girls can create a loaf of that cinnamon raisin bread on command now, and it's almost exactly like Scott's version. It's about 2.5 lbs, but probably costs about $1.20 to make, including the cup and a half of raisins we put in -- which is about half the cost. The 8 kids can polish off a loaf in one sitting. But still -- being able to feed 8 kids a meal for $1.20 plus some peanut butter and preserves -- not bad.

    I'm trying to get them into making breakfasts in the morning now. They need to make homemade oatmeal, cream of wheat, bread, waffles, pancakes, etc. Basically things that involve basic cheap ingredients and create more value when cooked. Those 10 oz boxes of cold cereal for $2.80 at the store are a joke for a large family. Have you seen how THIN some boxes of cold cereal have become? The boxes barely stand up on their own anymore, they're getting so thin. For the days when cold cereal is on the menu, they need to stick to large BAGS of bulk cereal, just like guess-where.

    I keep quoting my seminary days to my wife & kids, which is my constant guide and model for large family life.
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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #9 on: February 15, 2021, 09:37:25 PM »
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  • On the subject of Scott's Winona culinary masterpieces, his post-hike pizza takes grand prize in my opinion, with his Sunday Champagne Chicken in a close second.

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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #10 on: February 15, 2021, 10:27:00 PM »
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  • During my days at Winona (88-90), the food was subpar. Barely edible sometimes! Ladislaus can back me up on this.
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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #11 on: February 15, 2021, 11:01:15 PM »
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  • Despite the fact that you are all ex-seminarians, some of you would've made fine priests. Hopefully, some of you in the future have seminary-bound sons.
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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #12 on: February 16, 2021, 08:23:15 AM »
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  • Well, if we're strolling down memory lane, does anyone recall the bishop's private chapel on the 2nd floor?  Did it have a blue fleur-de-lis ceiling?  I always loved that chapel, but the only time I was ever allowed in it was for the 1st week we arrived at the seminary for our Ignatian retreat.  Never saw it again after that.

    PS: How about that seminary bread Scott made?  That was the best ever.

    I loved that chapel.  I was there before your time, and Matthew's, from 1989-1992 or so, and it was not locked down then.  I snuck in there all the time to pray, because I like it so much.  It was my favorite chapel, plus I could usually be there alone.

    Yet, I was there before Scott and never had the opportunity to try Scott's bread.  Now, there was a guy there for a while working as the head cook, who later got fired for stealing stuff from a seminarian's room (turns out he had a psychological compulsion for kleptomania), and he made some of the best meals out of the substandard ingredients that came from the food bank.  Whenever he asked me what he should make for dessert, I told him the banana cream pie.  In any case, some of us wanted him not to get fired, so we said we would put some stuff out for him to steal every once in a while so he could satisfy his urge.

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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #13 on: February 16, 2021, 08:27:36 AM »
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  • During my days at Winona (88-90), the food was subpar. Barely edible sometimes! Ladislaus can back me up on this.

    Oh, it was awful for the most part ... except for that short time that one kleptomaniac guy was there.  Do you remember his name?

    But he only made one meal a day, and the rest was terrible.  Now, many of us were OK with it due to wanting to practice some mortification, but every seminarian there looked malnourished due to the lack of QUALITY in the ingredients.  Seminarians looked emaciated and malnourished and pale.  I recall when I left for a while, then came back, how deeply struck I was with how pale everyone looked.

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    Re: Ex-seminarians - O My Jesus prayer in Latin? STAS version?
    « Reply #14 on: February 16, 2021, 09:57:44 AM »
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  • On the subject of Scott's Winona culinary masterpieces, his post-hike pizza takes grand prize in my opinion, with his Sunday Champagne Chicken in a close second.
    Yeah that pizza was the bomb. I wish I could get pizza anything like it.
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