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The Dimonds change on Una cuм?
« on: February 04, 2026, 11:00:55 AM »
Perhaps its not what it appears to be at first glance in this quote, but it does seem that the Dimonds have changed on the Una cuм(?).

https://schismatic-home-aloner.com/sspxs-major-decision-to-consecrate-new-bishops-exposes-the-absurdity-of-their-position/

The relevant quote is here:

"The priests and leaders of the SSPX, as well as their obstinate supporters, are phonies who lie to God, including during the canon of the Mass."



Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Dimonds change on Una cuм?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2026, 11:53:03 AM »
No, what they're saying is that they do not MEAN what they say, where they SAY they're in union with the Pope but then do as they please.

By contrast, for instance, an FSSP priest might also be "una cuм" but they would not be lying, since they actually mean it.

Their point here is that they talk out of both sides of their mouth, claiming to be obedient, but then doing what they want at the end of the day.

In the past, they've sometimes gone to Eastern Rite Liturgies, for instance.  Interestingly, too, in Eastern Rite, the mention of the Pope is different, not so much an "una cuм" as just praying FOR the Pope.


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Re: The Dimonds change on Una cuм?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2026, 12:23:19 PM »
So ... and this is one thing about the Dimond Brothers that can be a fault at times ... it's practically impossible to change their minds about any particular subject.  So they would never "change" except for the most extreme reasons.

Re: The Dimonds change on Una cuм?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2026, 01:55:19 PM »
No, what they're saying is that they do not MEAN what they say, where they SAY they're in union with the Pope but then do as they please.

By contrast, for instance, an FSSP priest might also be "una cuм" but they would not be lying, since they actually mean it.

Their point here is that they talk out of both sides of their mouth, claiming to be obedient, but then doing what they want at the end of the day.

In the past, they've sometimes gone to Eastern Rite Liturgies, for instance.  Interestingly, too, in Eastern Rite, the mention of the Pope is different, not so much an "una cuм" as just praying FOR the Pope.
Lad, the quote in the article seems to indicate that they are saying the naming of Prevost in the Canon is a lie. The SSPX believe he's the pope. Obviously, the Dimond's believe he's not. The easiest rendering of what is said here is that by naming him pope in the Te Igitur, it is a lie to God. Therefore, that would seem to denote a sacrilege in Una cuм Masses. I can't see another reasonable reading of what is being said. 

The Dimonds were not always sedes. They evolved. Perhaps this happened here. 

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Re: The Dimonds change on Una cuм?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2026, 02:10:44 PM »
Lad, the quote in the article seems to indicate that they are saying the naming of Prevost in the Canon is a lie. The SSPX believe he's the pope. Obviously, the Dimond's believe he's not. The easiest rendering of what is said here is that by naming him pope in the Te Igitur, it is a lie to God. Therefore, that would seem to denote a sacrilege in Una cuм Masses. I can't see another reasonable reading of what is being said.

The Dimonds were not always sedes. They evolved. Perhaps this happened here.

No, this has nothing to do with the Dimonds.  I've already gave you the correct interpreation of what they are saying.  They're talking about how SSPX say one thing ("una cuм") but do another ("disobey when they feel like it").  They have not changed anything, and aren't comparing what SSPX do/say with what Dimond Brothers believe, but what SSPX do compared to what SSPX believe.