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Offline spouse of Jesus

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Does God hate anybody?
« on: March 27, 2010, 05:55:42 PM »
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  •   It is an old question, but different answers were given to it.
    Is it true that Judas and Easue were hated by God from the beggining?

    Offline Vladimir

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    « Reply #1 on: March 27, 2010, 06:14:33 PM »
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  • At least in the case of Judas, I don't think that that is true.

    It has been revealed that the despair of Judas caused Our Lord the most pain during His Passion.




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    « Reply #2 on: March 27, 2010, 08:34:08 PM »
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  • No, it's not true spouse.  Christ greeted Judas as "friend" because he was offering him the chance to repentance.  

    Esau lost favor because of the life he led.  The selling of his birthright for a dish of lentils was symbolic of graces squandered.  He also took wives who were not suitable.

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    And Esau being forty years old, married wives, Judith, the daughter of Beeri, the Hethite, and Basemath, the daughter of Elon, of the same place. 35 And they both offended the mind of Isaac and Rebecca.

    Offline RomanCatholic1953

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    « Reply #3 on: March 27, 2010, 11:36:26 PM »
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  • God hates sin, and those knowingling persists in sin.

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    « Reply #4 on: March 28, 2010, 02:17:45 AM »
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  • It is easy to imagine God hating people when we hear of His wrath and "vengeance is mine" and such like.  But ultimately, God's wrath is simply the measure of His justice, the justice that He demands as the all-perfect Being.  I'm not saying His punishment of the wicked is impersonal.  There is nothing impersonal about God, that is the miracle of it, that He actually mingled however briefly in our lowly affairs, solely in order to save us, even consenting to humiliation and suffering and the experience of death.  So when He punishes someone even this is colored by the fact that He wanted to give eternal life to this person who He now has to send to hell.  

    It is sort of like the emotion someone might feel who, in a famine, has to shoot their beloved dog, because that dog is starved and losing its mind and starting to look at the kids as if they were so many racks of rib.

    Those who are in hell are there because they hate God, not because God hates them.  And if you hate God, what is He supposed to do, let you into heaven anyway?  They no more belong there than I belong in a woman's restroom.  The separation between the children of mercy and those of wrath is just that distinct.  The children of wrath are not fit to be in God's presence for eternity.  They are cursed, but by their own choice, not by His.  

    It is extremely important to remember that God wants to save everyone, and this is at the root of all these disputes about grace.  If you deny that God wants to save all, you are entering Protestant-ville.  The question arises as to how He could have left so many people in darkness for so long before His Incarnation, and the answer is that He knew it would take a long time before people would be mentally and spiritually ready to be vessels of the Holy Ghost.  If more people were ready earlier, Christ would have come earlier.    
    As I was a new convert when posting here, my posts are often full of error, even unwitting heresy and rash judgment, all of which I renounce, and all my writings are best avoided -- MDLS


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    « Reply #5 on: March 28, 2010, 11:15:37 AM »
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  • As far as i know, hate is a degradation. It is an evil.

    If God had evil, he would not be God.

    In regards to being a responsible man, would it be interesting to learn, after six years of accumulating all the wisdom you could, that you had it right all alon

     

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