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Offline spouse of Jesus

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friend of sinners and publicans
« on: July 25, 2010, 08:07:09 PM »
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  •   I think I have asked it before but got no answer. I still wonder whether "friend of sinners and publicans" etc. is an accusation/claumny against our Lord or the way He really behaved to save sinners?


    Offline Sigismund

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    « Reply #1 on: August 07, 2010, 02:25:36 PM »
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  • It is both.  Those who said it meant it as an insult.  When our Lord did it, he meant to demonstrate compassion and to save sinners.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #2 on: August 07, 2010, 02:43:22 PM »
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  • Our Lord came to fulfill the law.  He changed a lot of things.  And His word is pretty much the final word.  The religious leaders of the time would not dirty themselves by associating with sinners and publicans.  They had a lot of other rules, too, that Jesus said were wrong.  In their eyes Jesus did wrong.  But Jesus is God and therefore He is the one who decides what is right and what is wrong.  They taught as God's laws what were really just men's precepts.  People, even today, are forever getting the two mixed up.
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    « Reply #3 on: August 08, 2010, 05:12:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    It is both.  Those who said it meant it as an insult.  When our Lord did it, he meant to demonstrate compassion and to save sinners.


    Yes, and to demonstrate that He loves sinners (not their sins) and to demonstate that they can be saved.

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    « Reply #4 on: August 08, 2010, 11:51:08 AM »
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  • Of course.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir