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Offline Yeti

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Re: Consecration of New Traditional Catholic Bishop (Father Fliess)
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2022, 01:40:53 PM »
Quote from: de Lugo on December 02, 2022, 01:10:55 PM
I'm not sure I understand this post below, which looks like it may be a translation from another language, but they're saying something about "JPII music" being played during the consecration???
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It sounds like they are saying that a piece of music that was written by a composer who worked for JP2 was sung during the ceremony.

They don't explain why they think this is a problem. :confused::laugh1:
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Offline frankielogue

Re: Consecration of New Traditional Catholic Bishop (Father Fliess)
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2022, 03:43:08 PM »
Quote from: de Lugo on December 02, 2022, 01:10:55 PM
I'm not sure I understand this post below, which looks like it may be a translation from another language, but they're saying something about "JPII music" being played during the consecration???

Sedevacantist Consecration with John Paul II Music



Sedevacantist Bishop Donald Sanborn, 72, "consecrated" Germán Fliess on November 30 as new bishop of his group, the Roman Catholic Institute.

The "consecration" took place in Fraser, Michigan. In his homily, Sandborn justified this step by claiming that there hasn't been a pope since 1958 and that the Vatican has started a new religion after Pius XII.

The surprising part of the ceremony was the inclusion of musical emotionalism of the Council Church, i.e. Father Marco Frisina's Anima Christi (magnificently sung, Video below).

Frisina, 68, the current chapel master of the Lateran Basilica and head of the choir of Rome Diocese, was John Paul II's composer at court (“Jesus Christ, You Are My Life,” "Aprite le porte a Christo”).

Sandborn was ordained a priest by Archbishop Lefebvre but was expelled from PiusX in 1983, and founded the Society of Pius V which he left in 1991. His episcopal lineage goes back to the controversial Huế Archbishop Ngô Đình Thục (+1984) who was excommunicated and reconciled with Rome twice.

#newsBfubpljisq

https://gloria.tv/post/PAEBnLdM2YJT2vcFWU3ky7ahA


It was a stunning rendition of Anima Christi. Take a listen for yourself.

So the composer worked for JPII - okay? They accept him as pope anyway. Lol.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Consecration of New Traditional Catholic Bishop (Father Fliess)
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2022, 04:33:33 PM »
Meh ... don't like it at all.  I find even the "high" polyphony of Palestrina inferior to chant, but it's OK.  I didn't care for this composition.

Now, if +Sanborn et al. are serious about their strong anti-"una cuм" stance, they should probably avoid using the composition of a "non-Catholic" during the Mass.  I don't have a problem with that part, because I don't hold that the man was categorically non-Catholic (without knowing more about him).  But either you believe the NO is a non-Catholic sect simpliciter or you don't.  I wouldn't want a composition by some Lutheran at a Catholic Mass.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Consecration of New Traditional Catholic Bishop (Father Fliess)
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2022, 04:34:52 PM »
Quote from: frankielogue on December 02, 2022, 03:43:08 PM
It was a stunning rendition of Anima Christi. Take a listen for yourself.

Methinks it stunketh (not their execution of it, but the composition itself).
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Re: Consecration of New Traditional Catholic Bishop (Father Fliess)
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2022, 04:44:16 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on December 02, 2022, 04:33:33 PM
Meh ... don't like it at all.  I find even the "high" polyphony of Palestrina inferior to chant, but it's OK.  I didn't care for this composition.

Now, if +Sanborn et al. are serious about their strong anti-"una cuм" stance, they should probably avoid using the composition of a "non-Catholic" during the Mass.  I don't have a problem with that part, because I don't hold that the man was categorically non-Catholic (without knowing more about him).  But either you believe the NO is a non-Catholic sect simpliciter or you don't.  I wouldn't want a composition by some Lutheran at a Catholic Mass.
Assuming the gloriatv report is accurate/true, is it possible that the composer has since converted to the Faith?
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