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Offline Your Friend Colin

Conditional Confirmation
« on: May 02, 2019, 11:37:51 AM »
I spoke with a Society priest and he said it would be a good idea to investigate my Novus Ordo Confirmation. Bishop Fellay is going to be here in August to do Confirmations. Should I pursue a conditional Confirmation with Bishop Fellay?
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Conditional Confirmation
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2019, 12:08:49 PM »
Quote from: Your Friend Colin on May 02, 2019, 11:37:51 AM
I spoke with a Society priest and he said it would be a good idea to investigate my Novus Ordo Confirmation. Bishop Fellay is going to be here in August to do Confirmations. Should I pursue a conditional Confirmation with Bishop Fellay?
Sounds like a heaven sent opportunity. By all means, investigate and if after investigating there is doubt, ask if you can be conditionally confirmed by +Fellay.

Just be sure SSPX / +Fellay knows it's a conditional confirmation as that is something you need to be sure that the bishop knows before hand.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Conditional Confirmation
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2019, 12:12:01 PM »
I would ask to have it done regardless.  You may never get to the truth of it.  Who can remember what form the bishop used (they like to play with this one)?, and for a while they were using doubtful substitute oils instead of olive oil.  Given that these are pervasive practices in the Novus Ordo, this rises to the level of positive doubt, and I would get it done regardless.  What are you going to do, interview witnesses who can testify to the exact form used by the Bishop ... and contact the diocese to make sure they were only using Olive Oil?
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Offline Your Friend Colin

Re: Conditional Confirmation
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2019, 12:17:06 PM »
Quote from: Stubborn on May 02, 2019, 12:08:49 PM
Sounds like a heaven sent opportunity. By all means, investigate and if after investigating there is doubt, ask if you can be conditionally confirmed by +Fellay.

Just be sure SSPX / +Fellay knows it's a conditional confirmation as that is something you need to be sure that the bishop knows before hand.
Thanks, Stubborn.
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Offline Your Friend Colin

Re: Conditional Confirmation
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2019, 12:19:05 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on May 02, 2019, 12:12:01 PM
I would ask to have it done regardless.  You may never get to the truth of it.  Who can remember what form the bishop used (they like to play with this one)?, and for a while they were using doubtful substitute oils instead of olive oil.  Given that these are pervasive practices in the Novus Ordo, this rises to the level of positive doubt, and I would get it done regardless.  What are you going to do, interview witnesses who can testify to the exact form used by the Bishop ... and contact the diocese to make sure they were only using Olive Oil?
Hah! I was thinking about contacting Archbishop Chaput about whether or not he used genuine olive oil. 1) He might not remember 2) I probably won't get a response. Regardless of whether he did use the proper matter, the form of the sacrament is still dubious.
Thanks, Lad.
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