Author Topic: CHURCH OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZES 1859 MARIAN APPARITION (Read 3630 times)

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #15 on:** December 09, 2010, 07:31:12 PM »

Quote from: Belloc

(of record, I have doubts about the whole apparition in rading thelink,etc, based on info provided)

Ho dare you doubt the decision of a valid bishop with authority! Are you going to go against his decision like a Prot and make your own mind up? :wink:

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #16 on:** December 09, 2010, 07:37:32 PM »

Quote from: Belloc

Quote from: Roman Catholic
Quote from: Belloc
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Those may have been genuine apparitions that are worthy of approval by legitimate Catholic Church authorities.

But I do not care about an approval by a Novus Ordo bishop.

Yes, the bishop gave his approval, but does Our Lady give her approval to the bishop and the New Religion that Bishop Ricken belongs to and presides over in his diocese?

Is The Approver an approved approver?

Mary told Sr. Lucia to reveal teh 3rd secret in 1960

questions
did Mary not know that there would be a 2 yr vacant seat when she asked the 3rd secret revealed in 1960?
Did Mary think Siri would reveal the secret?
DId Mary know that Siri steppeddown, supposedly?
Did the vacant seat thing surprise Mary?

If we then believe that Mary told Lucia that the 3rd secret be revealed in 1960, what gives??

If there was an interregnum during 1960 would that have prevented Sister Lucy revealing something?

Is it a dogma that Sister Lucy was to reveal something in 1960?

was the revealtion not to be by the Pope? if not, then who was to do the revealing?

Is your belief in that detail based on a dogma that all Catholics must hold? Are Catholics bound to believe that a valid pope was supposed to reveal a secret in 1960?

If you think so, prove it.

Btw, I did not say Roncalli was not a pope. Some sedes think he was not, some think he was.

Heck, the SpiritusSanctus member here, who is an SSPX-er, thinks J23 was a pope, but P6 was not, and Jp2 was, and B16 is.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #17 on:** December 10, 2010, 09:42:34 PM »

Quote from: Roman Catholic

Those may have been genuine apparitions that are worthy of approval by legitimate Catholic Church authorities.

But I do not care about an approval by a Novus Ordo bishop.

Yes, the bishop gave his approval, but does Our Lady give her approval to the bishop and the New Religion that Bishop Ricken belongs to and presides over in his diocese?

Is The Approver an approved approver?

My thoughts exactly. I've been out there, and I believe that Our Lady appeared there, but I don't need the Novus Ordo bishop here to tell me that it happened.

One thing I do have to credit the Novus Ordo bishop doing here, is being the only bishop last year to withhold the collection from the CCHD. So I guess he's not the worst, but he's Novus Ordo. I remember some saying about protestants not profiting from good works, et cetera.

Arborman · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2010, 08:50:11 AM »

I am having trouble believing all these Marion apparitions. I am suspicious of them and the motivations of the people who promote them. Look at the man who runs "spirit daily". He is always promoting the false Medujorie apparitions. He admitted to me in an email that it was a false apparition but he promoted it because of it's "good fruits". And because he gets paid to lead pilgrimages there.

I do not trust anyone who says they have a secret message from God, it just sounds like a big con job.

I accept the apparitions like Fatima or Lourdes where there was a miracle, and where there was traditional church approval. As for for the rest, I reject them

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2010, 09:56:34 AM »

Quote from: Arborman

I am having trouble believing all these Marion apparitions. I am suspicious of them and the motivations of the people who promote them. Look at the man who runs "spirit daily". He is always promoting the false Medujorie apparitions. He admitted to me in an email that it was a false apparition but he promoted it because of it's "good fruits". And because he gets paid to lead pilgrimages there.

I do not trust anyone who says they have a secret message from God, it just sounds like a big con job.

I accept the apparitions like Fatima or Lourdes where there was a miracle, and where there was traditional church approval. As for for the rest, I reject them

I agree completely.

Are you able to post that email from the man who runs spirit daily?

Arborman · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2010, 11:34:14 AM »

No I deleted it. I should have saved it.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #21 on:** December 18, 2010, 02:50:55 PM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

Could it be that Mary asked for the secret to be revealed in 1960 on purpose to wake us up. I know I asked my priest in 1960, (I was 20 years at that time). I asked my priest and when he gave me some malarky I started to wonder what was going on. Sorry to say, after awhile I put it on the back burner of my life, but from time to time I would ask about it and each time felt something fishy was going on.

When I finally realized about the apostasy, this ignoring of Our Lady's request helped me to realize the truth.

It was on purpose. The 1960s were probably the worst decade the Church has ever experienced.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #22 on:** December 18, 2010, 08:27:18 PM »

Quote from: Arborman

No I deleted it. I should have saved it.

Oh. Nevertheless what an astounding thing for him to admit!

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #23 on:** December 28, 2010, 10:19:32 PM »

SSPX recognizes it and its approval..

http://sspx.org/news/our_lady_of_good_help_apparition-12-28-10.htm

chaz89 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 30, 2010, 11:08:45 PM »

Quote from: Arborman

I am having trouble believing all these Marion apparitions. I am suspicious of them and the motivations of the people who promote them. Look at the man who runs "spirit daily". He is always promoting the false Medujorie apparitions. He admitted to me in an email that it was a false apparition but he promoted it because of it's "good fruits". And because he gets paid to lead pilgrimages there.

I do not trust anyone who says they have a secret message from God, it just sounds like a big con job.

I accept the apparitions like Fatima or Lourdes where there was a miracle, and where there was traditional church approval. As for for the rest, I reject them

It's true. Found it true when I asked the same question of him.
I have friends who read the garbage from this spirit daily pseudo catholic site and are great followers of Medjugorie who might be surprised to learn this. Disengenuous is the word of the day here!