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Offline Cryptinox

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Can Oaths taken be loosed
« on: March 29, 2021, 11:23:38 PM »
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    • So I took some oaths to my parentd I had intended to be until I am 18 and there is a good chance they thought the same. Is there anyway to make it where you aren't bound by a promise or oath anymore? I am asking because in September I took an oath with God's name (mom told me tol I wouldn't voicechat with online friends without my mom's permission but I don't remember the exact words I used when I took that oath or if I mentioned the permission thing in it. 
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #1 on: March 29, 2021, 11:24:09 PM »
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    • Wrong board, move to Catholics in Modern World
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #2 on: March 30, 2021, 12:13:16 AM »
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    • Quote from: Cryptinox on March 29, 2021, 11:23:38 PM
     I don't remember the exact words I used when I took that oath 
    You're called to be a Jesuit!  :laugh1: 

    (Just having some fun)
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #3 on: March 30, 2021, 01:52:13 AM »
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    • I would start with do you have a good reason?  Not taking sides but just a guess that your parents don't want you voice chatting to help you avoid sin?
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #4 on: March 30, 2021, 06:45:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: Durango77 on March 30, 2021, 01:52:13 AM
    I would start with do you have a good reason?  Not taking sides but just a guess that your parents don't want you voice chatting to help you avoid sin?
    I will obey the command since they are my parentd however my mom seems to be nominal Catholic and my dad was raised in the Christian Science sect and denies the inerrancy of Scripture, hell, etc. They just feel uncomfortable about influence since I am too "judgy" as my mom puts it. However even without speaking to people my views would stay the same most likely.
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #5 on: March 30, 2021, 07:33:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: Cryptinox on March 29, 2021, 11:23:38 PM
    So I took some oaths to my parentd I had intended to be until I am 18 and there is a good chance they thought the same. Is there anyway to make it where you aren't bound by a promise or oath anymore? I am asking because in September I took an oath with God's name (mom told me tol I wouldn't voicechat with online friends without my mom's permission but I don't remember the exact words I used when I took that oath or if I mentioned the permission thing in it.
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    If you are younger than 18, then you are obliged to follow their commands anyway, oath or no oath. So if they tell you not to use voice chat without their permission, then you are obliged to observe that.
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #6 on: March 30, 2021, 08:03:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on March 30, 2021, 07:33:12 AM
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    If you are younger than 18, then you are obliged to follow their commands anyway, oath or no oath. So if they tell you not to use voice chat without their permission, then you are obliged to observe that.
    I know that. What I am asking is if when I am 18 if I could make myself not bound by the oath I took.
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #7 on: March 30, 2021, 08:25:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: Cryptinox on March 30, 2021, 08:03:33 AM
    I know that. What I am asking is if when I am 18 if I could make myself not bound by the oath I took.
    My opinion is that as long as you're subject to your parents, living under the same roof, 18 or not, you're bound to it. I recommend reflecting on your mom's reasoning.
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #8 on: March 30, 2021, 08:59:44 AM »
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    • I am not sure of Fr Ripperger's  NO ? ordination situation, but I do listen to his videos. The last one I heard was that private oath's done by the laity do have weight but they can be broken through deliverance prayers, assistance by a priest etc. They ( the oaths) may be illicit but valid. Depends on the oath. I'll try and locate the video for you.
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #9 on: March 30, 2021, 09:25:05 AM »
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    • Quote from: Cryptinox on March 29, 2021, 11:23:38 PM
    So I took some oaths to my parentd I had intended to be until I am 18 and there is a good chance they thought the same. Is there anyway to make it where you aren't bound by a promise or oath anymore? I am asking because in September I took an oath with God's name (mom told me tol I wouldn't voicechat with online friends without my mom's permission but I don't remember the exact words I used when I took that oath or if I mentioned the permission thing in it.
    One should not make oaths rashly.
    "Let your speech be yes, yes, no, no."
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #10 on: March 30, 2021, 09:30:32 AM »
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    • Fr Ripperger mentions oaths at 42:48
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #11 on: March 30, 2021, 02:45:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: MiserereMei on March 30, 2021, 08:25:06 AM
    My opinion is that as long as you're subject to your parents, living under the same roof, 18 or not, you're bound to it. I recommend reflecting on your mom's reasoning.
    ^This.

    As for an oath, you really would need to speak to a true priest and discuss the entire situation with him.  He will guide you.  Your parents, of course, can loose you from an oath you took to them, but, frankly, it really doesn't matter if you took an oath to them or not.  As long as you are subject to them--and I agree with the above comment, as long as you live under their roof your are indeed subject to them--you have an absolute duty to obey them in all that is not sinful.  And I can say with absolute certainty that it cannot ever, in any way, be sinful not to chat with the people your parents have told you not to chat with.
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #12 on: March 30, 2021, 03:03:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cryptinox on March 30, 2021, 08:03:33 AM
    I know that. What I am asking is if when I am 18 if I could make myself not bound by the oath I took.
    I'm confused.  Did your oath include "until I'm 18"? 
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #13 on: March 30, 2021, 04:32:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on March 30, 2021, 03:03:01 PM
    I'm confused.  Did your oath include "until I'm 18"?
    No but that was my intention. I may have just responded "I swear to God" to the statement from my mom cause she told me to do so. She may have listed the conditions and stuff but I don't remember.
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    Re: Can Oaths taken be loosed
    « Reply #14 on: March 30, 2021, 04:54:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cryptinox on March 30, 2021, 04:32:15 PM
    No but that was my intention. I may have just responded "I swear to God" to the statement from my mom cause she told me to do so. She may have listed the conditions and stuff but I don't remember.
    Hmm.  I wonder whether you could discuss this with your mom.  Perhaps seek clarification on her demands?  Somehow I doubt she meant it to mean forever.  It sounds like this all may have gone down in anger (on both parts).  If she says she expects this as long as you live in her house, then you know them the rules.  I suspect that by the time you're 18, you're not going to care about it anymore anyway.   
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