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Author Topic: Can a priest refrain from receiving the Eucharist at a Mass he celebrates?  (Read 2478 times)

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Re: Can a priest refrain from receiving the Eucharist at a Mass he celebrates?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2021, 03:30:48 PM »
This confirms what I'd always thought.

FWIW, this happened in the 10th century.  Were the "rules" different then?  Or being pope, did he have the authority to "loose" himself in this regard (i.e., not receiving communion)?

I’m not sure.

What is the account you are thinking of?

I guess my first thought is that, if the theologians referenced in the CE excerpt above are/were correct t that the priest’s Communion is essential to the integrity of the Mass, then I’m not sure how it could be licitly omitted.

Yet, if a 10th century pope did this, there must be some explanation.

Re: Can a priest refrain from receiving the Eucharist at a Mass he celebrates?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2021, 03:41:30 PM »
That has also been my understanding, that the priest must commune at every Mass he celebrates or the Sacrifice is not completed and Mass is invalid.

What an odd thing.


Re: Can a priest refrain from receiving the Eucharist at a Mass he celebrates?
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2021, 03:56:42 PM »
That has also been my understanding, that the priest must commune at every Mass he celebrates or the Sacrifice is not completed and Mass is invalid.

What an odd thing.

There would be no question as to validity, only liceity (and then, only as regards the priest).

Re: Can a priest refrain from receiving the Eucharist at a Mass he celebrates?
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2021, 04:28:39 PM »
There would be no question as to validity, only liceity (and then, only as regards the priest).
Just to throw it out there, might the priest be allowed merely to simulate reception of the sacrament, so as not to scandalize the faithful?  If the Mass is being celebrated ad orientem, nobody but the altar servers would see, and perhaps not even then.  Having served the TLM many times, I can tell you that you've got so much up there to think about, what to do and where to be when, that if the priest would exercise a little sleight of hand, and only appear to be consuming, you'd have to be mighty observant to notice.

But then there would be the Precious Blood, Which in the TLM is consumed by nobody but the priest.  Perhaps he could have another priest to consume It after Mass?  (But then the question that would beg to be answered, is why that same priest couldn't have heard his confession immediately before Mass.)

Just thinking out loud at this point.  I do have to wonder whether John XII reasoned that it would be a lesser sin not to receive, and thereby violate the rubrics and partially vitiate the Sacrifice, than to receive unworthily.  (I'm assuming that not celebrating wasn't an option.)

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Re: Can a priest refrain from receiving the Eucharist at a Mass he celebrates?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2021, 06:12:50 PM »
There would be no question as to validity, only liceity (and then, only as regards the priest).

That's debatable ... and has been debated.  Usually the scenario discussed is what would happen if a priest dropped dead, for instance, after the consecration and before Holy Communioni.  General consensus is that another priest would have to come and finish the Mass.  Consecration would be considered to have taken place, but the Mass would not be complete or valid.