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Traditional Catholic Faith => The Sacred: Catholic Liturgy, Chant, Prayers => Topic started by: Miseremini on February 27, 2025, 09:01:37 PM
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Blessed Solanus Casey, when acknowledged by Rome to be a saint, will be the first man born in the USA to be canonizied. This humble capuchin was responsible for many miracles during his lifetime and was revered as a saint both before and after his death in 1957. In 1960 relics were distributed in search of a miracle for his cause.
This is a wonderful saint for the USA.
https://www.solanuscasey.org/about-blessed-solanus-casey/
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I read the life of Fr. Solanus, and Bl. Bro. Andre drove to Detroit to meet him. They gave a blessing to each other. One saint giving a blessing to another saint. Fr. Solanus was always a pater simplex; he never had permission to hear confessions. The funny part is, he would often have 50-100 people a day come to him for advice.
One day at the seminary I had the opportunity to go to his family home, but I chose to stay at the seminary and take a nap.
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Amazing...both men alive at the same time, both judged unworthy, both relegated to be porters, yet both were miracle workers, one in the US and one in Canada and both were/will be the first men in their respective countries to be officially canonized!
"And the last will be first"
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One day at the seminary I had the opportunity to go to his family home, but I chose to stay at the seminary and take a nap.
:laugh1: ... yeah, sometimes the opportunties for naps were hard to pass by on the rare occasions they presented themselves.
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When my son was born, I was out of the Church and didn't give him a Saint's name.
I've been praying for Fr Solanus to become a saint , if only to cover my son's( Casey) lack of Christian name.
He's 47 now so I hope its soon!
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Father Solanus Casey was in Huntington, IN Felix Monastery. Huntington is my place of birth. Fr. Solanus had a miracle with our dentist, Howe. Fr. Solanus had a tooth removed and bled heavily. Fr. Solanus asked Dr. Howe for a room for himself. So, he went into a closet and came back out. Where the tooth was, hole, was completely healed over!
I never got to meet him. Just heard of him. I was born in 1952. Fr. Solanus was to answer the door to the monastery. People asked for masses to be said for their needs. Fr. asked for 25 cents or so and had them write in a note book, Seraphic Masses.
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Father Solanus Casey was in Huntington, IN Felix Monastery. Huntington is my place of birth. Fr. Solanus had a miracle with our dentist, Howe. Fr. Solanus had a tooth removed and bled heavily. Fr. Solanus asked Dr. Howe for a room for himself. So, he went into a closet and came back out. Where the tooth was, hole, was completely healed over!
I never got to meet him. Just heard of him. I was born in 1952. Fr. Solanus was to answer the door to the monastery. People asked for masses to be said for their needs. Fr. asked for 25 cents or so and had them write in a note book, Seraphic Masses.
We’re near Ft Wayne and our girls were able to attend an SSPX girls camp at the Monastery in Huntington 2 years ago, they were blessed to pray at his cell🙏
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I am sorry to say, that Felix monastery is new order. It went wrong in the 70's. Those of St. Mary's and St. Perter and Pauls parishes are new order. Very sad. I have 4 generations who went to St. Peter and St. Paul's. It broke my heart to have the marble communion rails (2) demolished. Thank god the original altar can not be removed. My Great-great Uncle said his first Mass there and again for his nephews requiem Mass in 1940. Fr. Rudolph Stoltz.
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Excuse me, Thank God
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I am sorry to say, that Felix monastery is new order. It went wrong in the 70's. Those of St. Mary's and St. Perter and Pauls parishes are new order. Very sad. I have 4 generations who went to St. Peter and St. Paul's. It broke my heart to have the marble communion rails (2) demolished. Thank god the original altar can not be removed. My Great-great Uncle said his first Mass there and again for his nephews requiem Mass in 1940. Fr. Rudolph Stoltz.
Yes, when the owners discovered Latin Mass was being celebrated at the camp they wouldn’t let us return the next year, it was a perfect setting😢
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https://youtu.be/5YARHg5Q21I
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A small booklet about Fr Casey was floating around my chapel. The author was especially impressed with Fr Casey's "charitable" spirit, and related the "edifying" example of him telling an atheist he didn't need to believe in God to be saved.
I quietly disposed of the booklet. I know nothing about Fr Casey except for what was in that booklet, and I don't know if the booklet told the truth, but if it did he seemed quite the liberal, and if it didn't it was highly libelous.
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Yes, I have a book about him as well and found it modernized and not well done. Does that surprise us?
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Miracle may be accepted for canonization.
https://catholicvote.org/teens-tumors-vanish-prayers-bl-solanus-casey-possible-miracle-for-canonization/
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Miracle may be accepted for canonization.
https://catholicvote.org/teens-tumors-vanish-prayers-bl-solanus-casey-possible-miracle-for-canonization/
Ah, but will (Conciliar) "canonization" by accepted by Traditional Catholics?
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A small booklet about Fr Casey was floating around my chapel. The author was especially impressed with Fr Casey's "charitable" spirit, and related the "edifying" example of him telling an atheist he didn't need to believe in God to be saved.
Well, I suspect that just as with Padre Pio, there are probably myriad apocryphal stories and "sayings" attributed to Father Casey by people dishonestly trying to promote their own agenda.
If he did say that, then, well, let's just say there's a reason he remained a "simplex" priest ... since he couldn't pass seminary studies, and, having been poisoned by the prevalent EENS-denial being taught almost universally in US seminaries, just because he was holy doesn't mean he was infallible or omniscient, and may even have been rather ignorant about many things. If not, he wouldn't have been just barely ordained and kept in simplex state for the duration of his priesthood.
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Ah, but will (Conciliar) "canonization" by accepted by Traditional Catholics?
Traditional Catholics accepted Solanus Casey and Brother Andre long before Rome got around to it.
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Fr Solanus wasn't "slow" - he was just instructed in a German speaking seminary and didn't know the language, so they labeled him stupid. His situation certainly was stupid however.
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Traditional Catholics accepted Solanus Casey and Brother Andre long before Rome got around to it.
Yeah, yeah ... but "accepting" them based on our own private assessment is not even in the same category as accepting them based on the Church's infallible judgment.
On this thread alone, we have some doubting Fr. Casey, and other Trads even accept the likes of Valtorta ... so one Trad's opinion and $10 might buy you a cup of coffee at Starbuck's.
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A small booklet about Fr Casey was floating around my chapel. The author was especially impressed with Fr Casey's "charitable" spirit, and related the "edifying" example of him telling an atheist he didn't need to believe in God to be saved.
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I find it a bit hard to believe this story is true. I doubt any Catholic would have said such a thing before Vatican 2, let alone a religious. This sounds like modernist lies.
If you can find this story in a pamphlet or book about him written before Vatican 2, that contains an Imprimatur, I might give it some credence.
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Fr Solanus wasn't "slow" - he was just instructed in a German speaking seminary and didn't know the language, so they labeled him stupid. His situation certainly was stupid however.
So, that was in the Diocesan seminary of Milwaukee, his home town. That wasn't the case with the Capuchin's in Detroit, but he struggled also with Latin and just couldn't make the grace. Now, granted, probably half the Traditional priests out there today could not have made it back in his day, since many of the classes were conducted in Latni and were not easy.
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I find it a bit hard to believe this story is true. I doubt any Catholic would have said such a thing before Vatican 2, let alone a religious. This sounds like modernist lies.
If you can find this story in a pamphlet or book about him written before Vatican 2, that contains an Imprimatur, I might give it some credence.
That December Karam recorded into the Center Log some of the statements he had heard Fr. Kelly make.
Among them:
It is possible for any man to be saved outside the Catholic
Church.
Any man who would say that there is no salvation outside
the Church is a heretic.
If you say that there is no salvation outside the Catholic
Church, you are a heretic and cannot save your soul.
The Catholic Church never defined or even suggested that
there is no salvation outside it. No pope, no council, no Doctor
of the Church ever taught that no one can be saved outside the
Catholic Church.
Not only is it possible to be saved outside the Catholic
Church, it is even possible to be saved while being an enemy of
the Church and actively fighting against it.
St. Paul was not sinning while persecuting Christ and
his Church.
The dogma that there is no salvation outside the Church
[this was said after Karam pointed out to Fr. Kelly that it was
a defined dogma] applies exclusively to Catholics who have
personally left the Church.
When a pope or council, or when a Doctor of the Church
says that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church, the
meaning of this statement depends on what is meant by the
Catholic Church.
Baptism is not necessary for salvation.
Many people who are totally ignorant of Christ and His
Church can be saved because their ignorance excuses them and
confers on them baptism of desire.
A person can have baptism of desire, even if he is ignorant of
the baptism of water, even if he refuses to be baptized by water.
~Garry Potter, After The Boston Heresy Case, pg.102
If Orestes Brownson and Fr. Michael Muller C.Ss.R needed to fight erroneous EENS interpretations +/-150 years ago it is not hard to believe that, by the mid-20th century, many Catholics held that anyone could be saved..even an atheist, as long as they were a "good person".
Ask any Novus Ordite if an atheist (or any other non-Catholic) can be saved and the answer will invariably be some form of "yes".
Ask any "trad" Catholic if a Jew, Hindu, Muslim, Protestant, etc. can be saved and the answer will, more often than one would like, be some form of "yes".
There are obviously degrees of EENS denial but this sort of thing does not happen overnight. I have read that Fr. Muller's writings on EENS (he does not deny BOD or BOB) came under fire from Catholics when he wrote them in the late 1800s
This is not to say I believe that Fr Casey said such a thing. I don't
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~Garry Potter, After The Boston Heresy Case, pg.102
Forgot to add, this occurred in 1948
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So, that was in the Diocesan seminary of Milwaukee, his home town. That wasn't the case with the Capuchin's in Detroit, but he struggled also with Latin and just couldn't make the grace. Now, granted, probably half the Traditional priests out there today could not have made it back in his day, since many of the classes were conducted in Latni and were not easy.
German and latin