From the Civitas UK Telegram Channel. This morning 28th of January, is of course London time.

We were told less than 24 Hours when I saw him on Sunday so it is a blessing he is still here.

I will say when I saw him his breathing did change so I don't know how valid this is 

We were told less than 24 Hours when I saw him on Sunday so it is a blessing he is still here.

I will say when I saw him his breathing did change so I don't know how valid this is

It is a blessing for you to be there and for him to not be alone.  

I wonder if he has been allowed to live these past days in order to unite all of us together in prayer for this man who has done so much for us and the Church.  

It's absolutely fair and they are completely wrong.  Their headline is factually untrue, even if they added corrections.  If they know there are conflicting stories, then you TAKE THE HEADLINE DOWN altogether.  That's journalism 101.  And charity 101.


But in the world of click-bait, in the world of rumors-first, truth-second, they kept up the unconfirmed headline.  They deserve all the criticism they get.

Say what you want, but there's no malice here toward Bishop Williamson, as people here have slandered them with.  In fact, they wrote in very positive terms about him in the write up.  Whether or what reason they left the original headline up and added a note, whether it's how their website works or is structured, or for whatever reason, it's not due to any kind of malice where they're somehow TRYING to perpetrate fraud by making people think Bishop Williamson had already died.  There's no indication of such malice or ill will.  I've seen that before on their website, where past content tends never to change, even if they later need to make an update.  Not sure why that is, but it's most certainly not being done for malicious reasons.

For all that everyone here keeps attacking Traditio for lack of charity, in this case the tables are turned, where they're being charitable, but you're attacking them uncharitably.

I don't agree with them, especially with their nonsense about how the 1962 Missal is "Half Novus Ordo", but I'm not going to slam someone over something relatively trivial with extreme vitriol and hostility because I don't like something else they did.

People do the very same thing with the Dimonds, where the hate them so much that they attack them even when they're doing something good or positive.

Say what you want, but there's no malice here toward Bishop Williamson, as people here have slandered them with.  

1) You can't know there's no malice.
2) They deserve criticism for false info/horrible journalism.  Malice or not, they are a news site and when they make a mistake, they deserve criticism.  Journalistic integrity is part of their job.

In fact, they wrote in very positive terms about him in the write up.  Whether or what reason they left the original headline up and added a note, whether it's how their website works or is structured, or for whatever reason, it's not due to any kind of malice where they're somehow TRYING to perpetrate fraud by making people think Bishop Williamson had already died.  There's no indication of such malice or ill will.  I've seen that before on their website, where past content tends never to change, even if they later need to make an update.  Not sure why that is, but it's most certainly not being done for malicious reasons.

They shouldn't act like a news service, if they can't figure out how to run a website. 

It is really hard to predict the details of a specific death, even if there are lots of generalizations one can make.  I was able to care for both of my parents in their final months and was with them as they died.  I learned that there are recognizable signs of the body shutting down and identifiable stages, but the exact timing still boils down to a guess. 

Well, I was adding in the stuff that was fake and/or speculative also, where there's been strange soup of information, guesses from the doctors, speculation from individuals, and probably some of the old "telephone game" rumor alterations.

Although I regret publicly speculating as to the circuмstances  of the Bishop's condition earlier; I was influenced by the fact that the initial reports stated that he was on life support ( which involves mechanical ventilation) and which apparently he was never on, and encouraged by Fr Chazal's message that he had purposeful cognitive function which to me meant there was potential for a level of recovery.  Just like the fog of war, there is a fog involved when information is spotty at best.
I apologize if I gave anyone an unwarranted false impression. It was not my intention. 
I am very shaken by the Bishop's impending death ( his eternal reward) and was 
motivated by my affection for him. 

People do the very same thing with the Dimonds, where the hate them so much that they attack them even when they're doing something good or positive.

I don't *hate* the Dimonds.

Imagine a huge cruise liner sinks, and there are lifeboats floating all over in the aftermath. There is one "group" that controls a certain number of the lifeboats, and there is ample, irrefutable evidence that this group has cannibals on over 50% of their lifeboats. (Or, if cannibals is too crazy, let's say there's evidence they have thrown person(s) overboard for "pragmatic" reasons like not enough supplies, food, etc.)

I would seek another lifeboat. I would head for another one that DIDN'T have a proven track record of hosting cannibals onboard -- or die trying.

This Crisis in the Church is like weeks or months aboard a physical lifeboat -- not minutes. This Crisis is a long haul deal. It's a marathon, not a sprint. If we hang with the wrong group (that goes too far), we are liable to NOT BE CATHOLIC when this thing is over. That would be a total fail. "You had one job, lifeboat!" to keep us alive until rescued. Ditto for Trad lifeboats. They have ONE JOB: to keep us balanced, sane Catholics with an intact Catholic Faith and Catholic Sense when this whole mess is sorted out.

You know what I mean.  They post stuff as if they have 'inside info'.  They have lots of viewers to their site.  They have to take this responsibility of reporting info seriously.

Are you asking for a lot?  Name an organization that currently does a good job at this. 

I am not sure good honest reporting has happened in a long time.  Everyone seems to have their own personal angle and agenda.  I know I am making rash generalizations, but this is clouded by my disappointment of society in general.

Have you taken a step to maybe help with their web design?  Maybe they don't have the man power to fix it easily.  Maybe it is just easier to add addendums.