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Offline Meg

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Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
« Reply #150 on: January 27, 2025, 01:32:00 PM »
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  • 100% Agreed.

    If you look at the Original Wikipedia source it is indeed the Telegram screenshot. To be honest I really do believe it was the enemy who is doing this and Fr Abraham told me yesterday the exact same thing.

    I do think however it is likely some edgy teenage edgelord who hates the SSPX and Resistance so he made it for the sake of causing confusion and dismay

    Hopefully it is just an edgy teenager, but the situation doesn't surprise me at all.

    I recall Bp. Faure saying some 8-10 (maybe longer) years ago that the Resistance is attacked from two sides - from the left, by the liberals who seek reconciliation with modernist Rome, and also from the right, by some sedevacantists (as we see on this forum).

    So the resistance gets it from both sides, caught in the middle, so to speak. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #151 on: January 27, 2025, 01:44:11 PM »
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  • I initially had hoped that it wasn't malicious, but when I look at telegra.ph, one can go on there and start posting with no account needed, no name to attach to it, no email, nothing. I posted something on there myself to confirm, and suspicions were right. Seems as if anyone can post there, no strings attached.

    Add to that the odd English grammar for someone who ostensibly works for a prior in Britain and whose boss is a highly-educated Cambridge graduate... something is not adding up. It may just be someone being an idiot or getting wrong information, but something is not adding up.
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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #152 on: January 27, 2025, 03:53:58 PM »
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  • What I assumed about him being on a ventilator was incorrect . Please forgive my assumptions. 
    You can go to TruthUnchained on telegraph for recent updates
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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #153 on: January 27, 2025, 04:18:07 PM »
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  • I meant telegram not telegraph 

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #154 on: January 27, 2025, 04:35:22 PM »
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  • For what it’s worth…Traditio.com is standing by the following regarding His Excellency:

         THE TRADITIO FATHERS REPLY>>> A death announcement has been issued 
    by Regina Martyrum House, Broadstairs, Kent, in the United Kingdom, which 
    was Williamson's episcopal home base.


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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #155 on: January 27, 2025, 04:37:57 PM »
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  • For what it’s worth…Traditio.com is standing by the following regarding His Excellency:

        THE TRADITIO FATHERS REPLY>>> A death announcement has been issued
    by Regina Martyrum House, Broadstairs, Kent, in the United Kingdom, which
    was Williamson's episcopal home base.
    Please stop! This has already proven to be fake. Traditio is not a particularly reliable site. 

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #156 on: January 27, 2025, 04:45:41 PM »
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  • It's totally understandable that emotions are running high about this, but we all know better than to put any stock in 2nd, 3rd, 4th.....50th hand reports. This isn't meant as a jab toward any individual, it's just that it's becoming quite the ridiculous spectacle and I doubt that it is helping anyone.
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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #157 on: January 27, 2025, 04:56:51 PM »
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  • Please stop! This has already proven to be fake. Traditio is not a particularly reliable site.


    Agreed. And Traditio is known to be against +W.

    One just has to do a google search to confirm this. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #158 on: January 27, 2025, 07:58:36 PM »
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  • For what it’s worth…Traditio.com is standing by the following regarding His Excellency:

        THE TRADITIO FATHERS REPLY>>> A death announcement has been issued
    by Regina Martyrum House, Broadstairs, Kent, in the United Kingdom, which
    was Williamson's episcopal home base.

    OK, while I'm no fan of Traditio.com, this is completely wrong and unfair to them ...

    If you look at the link, they add this right beneath the headline (in fairly large bold type) ...
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    NOTA BENE. As of early 01/27/25 there are contradictory reports circulating: (1) that Bishop Williamson is not dead, but is unconscious and unresponsive; (2) that he is unconscious and minimally responsive. In either case, the doctors have reportedly suspended treatment and given him only a day or two to live. As further information becomes available, we shall report it here.



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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #159 on: January 27, 2025, 07:59:48 PM »
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  • Agreed. And Traditio is known to be against +W.

    One just has to do a google search to confirm this.

    And some of you jumped right onto the bandwagon to attack without bothering to spend 30 seconds to click the link and investigate whether this accusation was true.

    Then you layer some additional slander on top, claimng Traditio is "against" Bishop Williamson.  They're against SSPX, but have been positive toward him ever since he split off from them, despite your false assertion that one need merely do a Google search to confirm, a search which you evidently did not perform.

    This is what he writes beneath the above clarification regarding the conflicting reports.

    Doesn't sound like he's all that "against" Bishop Williamson (copied directly from Traditio.com and keeping his formatting) ...
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    Williamson was just short of his 85th birthday. It is entirely fitting that Our Lord should have taken him on the Double Major Feast of the Conversion of St. Paul, as Williamson was himself a convert from Anglicanism and himself converted many souls.
    Bishop Williamson consecrated eight bishops for the Traditional Catholic Movement:
    • Jean-Michel Faure (2016)
    • Tomas Aquin (2017)
    • Gerardo Zendejas (2017)
    • Giacomo Ballini (2020).
    • Paul Morgan (?2023, in pectore)
    • Michal Stobnicki (?2023, in pectore)
    • perhaps two more in pectore
    On June 23, 2011, Bishop Williamson, who was at the time in the midst an imbroglio with Bernie Fellay, then Superior General of the Neo-Society of St. Pius X, took the time to write the TRADITIO Fathers, conveying his "respect for you and your work on the TRADITIO site." That imbroglio with Fellay finally led to Williamson's abandoning the Neo-SSPX because it had strayed from the Traditional Catholic principles of its founder, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, and had made overtures to join the apostate Newchurch of the New Order
    Although Bishop Williamson has disappointed many Traditional Catholics by not taking on the mantle of SSPX Traditional Catholic Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and vigorously carrying on the Archbishop's work in contrast to Fellay's Neo-SSPX, which fell away from those principles, Williamson was a very decent man and did much for the Traditional Catholic movement.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #160 on: January 27, 2025, 08:29:20 PM »
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  • Does anyone have a clue who that "Miss. Madelyn" was from the post that announced +W's death?
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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #161 on: January 27, 2025, 08:37:29 PM »
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  • And some of you jumped right onto the bandwagon to attack without bothering to spend 30 seconds to click the link and investigate whether this accusation was true.

    Then you layer some additional slander on top, claimng Traditio is "against" Bishop Williamson.  They're against SSPX, but have been positive toward him ever since he split off from them, despite your false assertion that one need merely do a Google search to confirm, a search which you evidently did not perform.

    This is what he writes beneath the above clarification regarding the conflicting reports.

    Doesn't sound like he's all that "against" Bishop Williamson (copied directly from Traditio.com and keeping his formatting) ...

    Okay....thanks for the correction. I appreciate it.

    But at least I didn't insist that the plug should be pulled on the *vegetative* Bp. Williamson, like someone else here did recently.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #162 on: January 27, 2025, 09:24:25 PM »
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  • My sole intent in the posting from Traditio.com was strictly for informational purposes only and not to add to any confusion regarding the accuracy of his current condition . I think Lad did a better job than I could have clearing the air on my post. 
    May God continue to Bless Bp. W!

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #163 on: January 27, 2025, 10:00:11 PM »
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  • Does anyone have a clue who that "Miss. Madelyn" was from the post that announced +W's death?
    I actually did some searches on "Madelyn" combined with various other words.  I could not find any trace of a person with that name associated with Regina Martyrum House.  Of course, that does not prove anything.  On the other hand, I have no evidence that such a person even exists.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #164 on: January 28, 2025, 02:59:04 AM »
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  • From the Civitas UK Telegram Channel. This morning 28th of January, is of course London time.