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Offline andy

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Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
« Reply #135 on: January 27, 2025, 09:02:09 AM »
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  • This is a disturbing reference.  The mythic character Siegfried was killed by being stabbed in the back by one who pretended to be a friend.
    Those speculations and noise on this thread are equally disgusting. I plead with you all to shut up, except for essential info.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #136 on: January 27, 2025, 09:09:22 AM »
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  • Thank you for the post.  So, I think most of the disinformation all leads back to the same source, that one post.  I was on the fence about whether the post was made by someone who had reacted emotionally to the prognosis of His Excellency's imminent death with a certain amount of despairing cynicism, conflating the prognosis of certain death with death itself ... or whether it was made by some wicked hateful individual out of malice toward Bishop Williamson and/or his "followers" (i.e. those who care about him).

    I did a bit of digging and found that the original post was made on a site called telegra.ph ... and this leads me to believe that the post was malicious.  So, this would appear to be a domain set up PRECISELY to be falsely associated with the well-known Telegram, similar to how phishing scams work ... except that on telegra.ph, anyone can post anything with complete anonymity.  So the deliberate intent to remain anonymous, which intent is contradicted by the content of the message where the poster lists that lady's name (i.e. if you wished to post anonymously for a legitimate reason, you wouldn't put your name on it) ... suggests that it was done by a malicious troll.

    So, the next question is whether it was done out of an evil hatred for Bishop Williamson, hoping that it would dissuade people from praying for his recovery, or for the slightly-less-evil intention of trolling those who genuinely care about His Excellency by creating chaos and havoc among them.

    At the end of the day, I smell a Jew ... given that His Excellency is most hated by them, whereas it would only be other Traditional Catholics who would even understand much less disagree with the nuances of a theological disagreement that to an outsider would be entirely incomprehesible, and no Traditional Catholic would pull such a stunt.
    100% Agreed.

    If you look at the Original Wikipedia source it is indeed the Telegram screenshot. To be honest I really do believe it was the enemy who is doing this and Fr Abraham told me yesterday the exact same thing.

    I do think however it is likely some edgy teenage edgelord who hates the SSPX and Resistance so he made it for the sake of causing confusion and dismay
    Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:


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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #137 on: January 27, 2025, 09:13:23 AM »
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  • As a friend of mine here will attest to, I hope they are putting drops/ ointment in his eyes as well, for if he recovers we wouldn't want him to suffer from dried out damaged corneas either. That is a whole other ball of wax to contend with.
    Hope someone in England reads this.
    When I was there, they didnt put ointment in his eyes as his eyes were pure shut... He really did look like a saint.
    They did keep him hydrated however
    Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #138 on: January 27, 2025, 09:48:10 AM »
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  • 100% Agreed.

    If you look at the Original Wikipedia source it is indeed the Telegram screenshot. To be honest I really do believe it was the enemy who is doing this and Fr Abraham told me yesterday the exact same thing.

    I do think however it is likely some edgy teenage edgelord who hates the SSPX and Resistance so he made it for the sake of causing confusion and dismay

    Right, and it's not quite "Telegram", but as soon as people see a URL starting with "telegra", their minds immediately "complete the word" by thinking "Telegram".  I went to that site, telegra.ph and could make a post there without any account and with total anonymity.

    So, it's hard for me to believe that anyone professing to be a Traditional Catholic would dare to do something so low-class as to troll people regarding the death or impending death of Bishop Williamson.  I consider that to be a grave sin.  I do think it's someone who "hates" Bishop Williamson, but the question is what they "hate" him for, and what degree of "hatred" would inspire someone to do something this grave.  I can only think of the h0Ɩ0cαųst religion cultists (aka Jews).  I just don't think whether a debate about whether we should attempt to reconcile with Rome or now would occasion that degree of hatred.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #139 on: January 27, 2025, 09:48:21 AM »
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  • When I was there, they didnt put ointment in his eyes as his eyes were pure shut... He really did look like a saint.
    They did keep him hydrated however
    It would be a good practice to have them put in some lubricating ointment or drops every 4-8 hrs. They can open the lid to insert. 
    If Bishop does recover, believe me he will appreciate it.
    Thanks for responding


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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #140 on: January 27, 2025, 09:52:32 AM »
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  • It would be a good practice to have them put in some lubricating ointment or drops every 4-8 hrs. They can open the lid to insert.
    If Bishop does recover, believe me he will appreciate it.
    Thanks for responding

    You do seem to know quite a lot about this ... perhaps you should be there.  

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #141 on: January 27, 2025, 10:23:23 AM »
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  • I just got a prayer chain email 2 days ago saying he was "dead'. I wish people wouldn't do this.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #142 on: January 27, 2025, 10:30:58 AM »
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  • I was at the Hospital with Bishop Williamson by his bedside till the night (still in pallative care) yesterday.
    I won't share all the details as I am not in position this early to say anything, but I will say all the disinformation on twitter has been disgusting. Such a distinguished Pious Bishop should not have lies let alone a false announcement of his death
    Thank you, for being there for Bishop Williamson.  When you see him, tell him we were praying for him and were asking for him.  
    May God bless you and keep you


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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #143 on: January 27, 2025, 10:32:40 AM »
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  • Thanks Lad, but not possible - I wish I could. I love the Bishop as we all do.
    I can be a pain on details like this- ask my family and friends. I'm quite annoying to them! it's just that over the years I have been paying attention to what most people overlook merely by being snowed by the medical establishment.

    I don't know how the British medical system operates- I suspect they are quite rigid and compliant with their euthanasia styled policies even more than the US if that's possible.
    When I was a nurse in the 1980's we actually tried to save people.

    In the early 90's there was  subtle but obvious change with promotion of the DNR . I went back to work in ICU and couldn't believe that lack of aggressive care that 5 years before was standard. Apparently this was system wide.

    The nurses in the 80's needed to know ventilators, total lab evaluation, reading cardiac outputs and swan ganz. arterial lines CVP and ICP monitoring, balloon pumps  - so much technical information for the patient and that was in just a small community ICU. After the 80's this intensity of treatment dropped significantly at least for me -even in NYC where I worked for a while. Don't get me wrong, most nurses are great but the culture has changed. Medicine is both corporate and dictated by the government.

    Overall I am NOT a fan of palliative care ( although I'm sure there is a limited place for it) or Hospice. While it all sounds 'nithe", there is too much acquiescence to the "goal" of a comfortable death over the possibility of maintaining life even if there are indications for it. The NO Consiliar church is very much involved in palliative care- it gives me the creeps.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #144 on: January 27, 2025, 10:46:31 AM »
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  • We just came back from visiting a friend who is in hospital.  He is in his 90’s and they put him on morphine.  He felt nauseous and the nurse just shoved a container on him.  My thought is the morphine is making him feel sicker. 

    I noticed that the hospital didn’t have windows which could open for fresh air.  Hospital food not that healthy either.  

    I think dying at home is better.  



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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #145 on: January 27, 2025, 10:49:28 AM »
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  • We just came back from visiting a friend who is in hospital.  He is in his 90’s and they put him on morphine.  He felt nauseous and the nurse just shoved a container on him.  My thought is the morphine is making him feel sicker.

    I noticed that the hospital didn’t have windows which could open for fresh air.  Hospital food not that healthy either. 

    I think dying at home is better. 
    My mother was a hospice nurse. I can tell you  for sure morphine, slowly kills elderly. Morphine should only be used for acute deadly wounds or sicknesses. Period.


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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #146 on: January 27, 2025, 10:51:48 AM »
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  • I pray that Bishop Williamson gets better and out of the hospital. 
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #147 on: January 27, 2025, 12:37:15 PM »
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  • I pray that Bishop Williamson gets better and out of the hospital.

    Yes, wouldn't that be something, given not only the troll job but also the consistent message we've heard from the doctors (as reported even by reliable sources) that his death was inevitable within a day or a few days at most.  Of course, may God's will be done.  If Bishop Williamson passes away, God has His reasons, and they're always for everyone's best, including that of His Excellency.

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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #148 on: January 27, 2025, 12:46:00 PM »
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  • We just came back from visiting a friend who is in hospital.  He is in his 90’s and they put him on morphine.  He felt nauseous and the nurse just shoved a container on him.  My thought is the morphine is making him feel sicker.

    I noticed that the hospital didn’t have windows which could open for fresh air.  Hospital food not that healthy either. 

    I think dying at home is better. 
    I wonder if someone I knew receiving care at home was killed by whatever medicine they were giving. When the medicine wore off, they were lively, but grouchy with pain. With medicine, they were practically lifeless, barely breathing.
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    Re: Bishop Williamson in the Hospital
    « Reply #149 on: January 27, 2025, 01:08:58 PM »
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  • So Bishop Williamson is at the center of controversy, being attacked by some, and the target of lies, misunderstandings, and misinformation.
    The Internet and Media is propagating untruths about the Bishop and his status.

    I'd say it's ironic, but it's actually the exact opposite of ironic. Eminently appropriate, actually.
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