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Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2021, 08:34:23 PM »
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  • 95% truth, 5% poison.
    He is saying the revolution came AFTER Vll and not because of it.....
    I think he is trying to counter Vigano and reel in the "moderate" Trads
    so they don't leave...

    Bishop Schneider Explains The Deepest Crisis Of The Catholic Church Today (rumble.com)

    https://rumble.com/vnheat-bishop-schneider-explains-the-deepest-crisis-of-the-catholic-church-today.html?mref=dfum5&mc=cpj1y

    https://rumble.com/vnheat-bishop-schneider-explains-the-deepest-crisis-of-the-catholic-church-today.html

    I keep hoping he will catch up to Vigano, but news like this frustrates my hopes.
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    Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
    « Reply #2 on: October 08, 2021, 09:35:08 PM »
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  • I keep hoping he will catch up to Vigano, but news like this frustrates my hopes.
    Pray for him, that he wakes up soon.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
    « Reply #3 on: October 09, 2021, 06:18:09 AM »
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  • He will be a Privationist in another couple of years, it might take Pope Tagle though.
    Regard all of my posts as unfounded slander, heresy, theologically specious etc
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    Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
    « Reply #4 on: October 09, 2021, 07:51:40 AM »
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  • Bishop Schneider is on the same page as +Fellay.


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    Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
    « Reply #5 on: October 09, 2021, 07:54:32 AM »
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  • Pray for him, that he wakes up soon.

    Yes, I appreciate his fortitude in standing up against the jab.  So he's actually got that going for him over the SSPX.  It's a sad time when Conciliar bishops like +Schneider and +Vigano have swung to the right of the SSPX.

    If I ever need a signature on a jab exemption request, I would be appreciating the service he provides.  I do believe that Father Jenkins and Father Carley would sign the exemption forms, but I haven't actually asked them if they would yet.

    Thus far my company (which employs thousands) has remained mysteriously silent about any jab mandate.  I think they have issues because the majority of their employees are in Texas, where I believe such a mandate would be illegal, and so they're undoubtedly trying to sort out how they can make it mandatory for non-Texas employees without that setting them up for lawsuits.

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    Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
    « Reply #6 on: October 09, 2021, 08:38:43 AM »
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    95% truth, 5% poison.

    He is saying the revolution came AFTER Vll and not because of it.....
    Yeah, at this point, anyone who argues the above is either a grossly, willfully, uneducated idiot, or a liar.

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    Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
    « Reply #7 on: October 09, 2021, 08:59:31 AM »
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  • Yeah, at this point, anyone who argues the above is either a grossly, willfully, uneducated idiot, or a liar.
    You would think people who argue the drop of poison fallacy had read Galatians 5:9 first:
    "A little leaven corrupteth the whole lump."
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
    « Reply #8 on: October 09, 2021, 09:00:02 AM »
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  • Yeah, at this point, anyone who argues the above is either a grossly, willfully, uneducated idiot, or a liar.

    Not necessarily.  There's a school of thought which holds (rightly IMO) that an Ecuмenical Council is guided by the Holy Spirit and therefore cannot be harmful to the Church.  So it's his attempt to reconcile the obvious wreckage in the wake of Vatican II, arguing that blaming Vatican II is a case of post hoc, propter hoc fallacy.  +Vigano has managed to cut through that and realizes how V2 is directly responsible.  This is actually the same major premise that's held by sedevacantists, that a legitimate Ecuмenical Council cannot cause this kind of damage to the Church.

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    Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
    « Reply #9 on: October 09, 2021, 09:01:57 AM »
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  • Thus far my company (which employs thousands) has remained mysteriously silent about any jab mandate.  I think they have issues because the majority of their employees are in Texas, where I believe such a mandate would be illegal, and so they're undoubtedly trying to sort out how they can make it mandatory for non-Texas employees without that setting them up for lawsuits.
    Yeah, my employer is treating their mandate like they do the flu shot: You can just waive it for religious reasons without any docuмentation.
    That still doesn't change the sad fact that around 15,000 out of 16,000 employees got the jab.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
    « Reply #10 on: October 09, 2021, 11:03:52 AM »
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    Not necessarily.  There's a school of thought which holds (rightly IMO) that an Ecuмenical Council is guided by the Holy Spirit and therefore cannot be harmful to the Church.
    I'm not talking about this aspect of the revolution, but the revolution as a whole.



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    He is saying the revolution came AFTER Vll and not because of it.....
    I'm talking about the historically, factual revolution that started in the 1700/1800s (illuminati), ramped up in the late 1800s so that Bl Pope Pius IX was imprisoned in the Vatican, and then was defeated (temporarily) and exposed by Pope St Pius X in the early 1900s, and confirmed by Our Lady at Fatima.

    At this point, with someone as educated at +Schneider, to say that the revolution in the church *started* post V2 is just to ignore history, facts and reality.  It's like saying that the north-south didn't start hating each other until *after* the cινιℓ ωαr started.  It makes no sense.  Ideas/emotion always come before action.  Therefore, the revolution idea/planning started BEFORE the revolution event (i.e. V2). 

    Even if you argue that the 1800s revolution is unconnected with V2, to argue that there was no build-up, planning, or conspiracy in the decade(s) prior to the 60s is just laughable.  +Schneider is simply (like the new-sspx) denying that a global conspiracy exists, to keep the sheeple calm and pacified.  


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    Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
    « Reply #11 on: October 09, 2021, 02:56:29 PM »
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    « Reply #12 on: October 09, 2021, 03:00:37 PM »
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  • Nostra Aetate , Gaudium et Spes, Lumen Gentium...really?

    Absolutely.  They come up with various "hermeneutic of continuity" explanations for what the problematic sections "REALLY" mean.  It's a huge stretch, but I'm just explaining their thinking on the subject.  +Schneider admitted that a few passages would have to be "amended" but then applies the "hermeneutic" to the rest.  That's precisely what +Vigano took exception to in his first ground-breaking letter.

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    Re: Bishop Athanasius Schneider Trying to Salvage Vll on the Warroom
    « Reply #13 on: October 09, 2021, 09:51:37 PM »
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  • I was born and raised into Vatican II. My home town which was mostly Catholic was destroyed by Vatican II like so many others by its nasty fruits.

    Think ....where does this bishop live?






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