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You are correct, it’s because of that I am a carnivore, haven’t eaten a fruit or veggie in 6 months, we’ve been lied to about them as well. Red meat has way more nutrition then any fruit or veggie; not saying don’t eat them if they’re working for you but all fruit is loaded with sugar and fiber doesn’t digest well, all fiber is good for is moving the veggies out of your system; you don’t get gas from meat, only from vegetables. But, TBH, please do your own research like I did, will never tell anyone to take my word for this stuff

So you're saying that thousands of years of agriculture are in error? That the ban on flesh meat during Lent in the early Church was a mistake, that the fasting standard of a single slice of plain bread for frustulum/collation is dietarily ill-advised, that Our Lord should not have multiplied all those loaves, though maybe OK about all those fishes?

FYI, gas only happens if, as a malady of modern bad habits, a person's innards are bereft of the normal healthy native gut bacteria bestowed upon us since the days of Genesis. My research tells me that the mono-carnivore thing is less about proper nutrition and more about neopagan biohacking revisionism.

For dinner I had a good-sized steak, well salted and seared black and blue, and a glass of red wine with all those beneficent plant phenols. (And followed with a paczki as a nod to the season, though Eastern folk will say the deadline for that was Thursday. ) There are two more steaks in the fridge for tomorrow and Tuesday. Carne-vale. Thereafter, the mammalian and avian protein sources will be quite restricted, to be replaced mainly by plant matter through the end of March (except for Sundays).

jtucker is completely right about one thing: Our Lord didn't multiply bleached, spongy Wonder Bread. And any time you read about a Saint or religious (monk, nun) eating a single piece of bread for the day, etc. DO NOT PICTURE A SLICE OF BUTTER-KRUST, WONDER BREAD, or any other brand of modern "white bread". Please!

It used to be that only children would picture such silly things. It was cute. But today, since we are so divorced from reality and things like farming, baking, cooking -- I'm sure there are some 30 year olds who might make that mistake now!

Has anyone besides me (and a few other ex-seminarians) experienced eating REAL BREAD? Made from scratch? The kind you have to cut with a bread knife? The texture, smell, and taste is completely different. Even the white variety is different, believe it or not!

And jtucker is also correct that modern farming methods leave the soil depleted of *trace minerals*. So vegetables aren't as good as the homegrown equivalents of yesteryear. But there is still a lot of nutrition there -- the bare minimum, as it were.

But I strongly disagree with jtucker about the "carnivore diet" thing. All things in moderation: meat, fruits, vegetables, grains, dairy. God made them all for us to eat, and man has been eating ALL of these things for MILLENNIA -- and with good result!

jtucker is completely right about one thing: Our Lord didn't multiply bleached, spongy Wonder Bread. And any time you read about a Saint or religious (monk, nun) eating a single piece of bread for the day, etc. DO NOT PICTURE A SLICE OF BUTTER-KRUST, WONDER BREAD, or any other brand of modern "white bread". Please!

It used to be that only children would picture such silly things. It was cute. But today, since we are so divorced from reality and things like farming, baking, cooking -- I'm sure there are some 30 year olds who might make that mistake now!

Has anyone besides me (and a few other ex-seminarians) experienced eating REAL BREAD? Made from scratch? The kind you have to cut with a bread knife? The texture, smell, and taste is completely different. Even the white variety is different, believe it or not!

And jtucker is also correct that modern farming methods leave the soil depleted of *trace minerals*. So vegetables aren't as good as the homegrown equivalents of yesteryear. But there is still a lot of nutrition there -- the bare minimum, as it were.

But I strongly disagree with jtucker about the "carnivore diet" thing. All things in moderation: meat, fruits, vegetables, grains, dairy. God made them all for us to eat, and man has been eating ALL of these things for MILLENNIA -- and with good result!

I adopted the carnivore way of eating about 6 months ago, never looked back but I’m not a strict carnivore, admit it’s not for everyone’s taste but it’s ancestral eating at its finest IMHO of course. Do I miss bread and pasta? Yup! But not veggies…