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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Anyone know the Four Classes of Sinners?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2022, 08:19:04 PM »
Sinners of Type 1 and Type 2 (the ignorant and the weak) are generally less displeasing to God than the righteous who are haughty and arrogant, as per the parable about the Pharisee and the publican ... especially Type 2.  These latter often have great remorse for their sins and have a certain amount of humility that's almost been forced on them.  Several saints have stated that it's to combat the vice of pride, which displeases God the most, that He allows some souls to fall into sins of weakness.
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Offline MariasAnawim

Re: Anyone know the Four Classes of Sinners?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2022, 01:26:18 AM »
I never knew this...very good to know as well as apply in my life.
I don't know for sure but maybe this was in the book Guide for confessors by st alfonso ligori?
I recently bought it for a priest after Father Issac Reyeles recommended it.
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Anyone know the Four Classes of Sinners?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2022, 12:33:31 PM »
I did a Bing search for some specific text, and found it here:

http://www.domcentral.org/study/aumann/st/st07.htm
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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Anyone know the Four Classes of Sinners?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2022, 04:12:34 PM »
Thanks a million. It deserves its own page, so: https://judaism.is/levels-of-sin.html


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Offline SimpleMan

Re: Anyone know the Four Classes of Sinners?
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2022, 07:11:12 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 21, 2022, 08:19:04 PM
Sinners of Type 1 and Type 2 (the ignorant and the weak) are generally less displeasing to God than the righteous who are haughty and arrogant, as per the parable about the Pharisee and the publican ... especially Type 2.  These latter often have great remorse for their sins and have a certain amount of humility that's almost been forced on them.  Several saints have stated that it's to combat the vice of pride, which displeases God the most, that He allows some souls to fall into sins of weakness.

I'm a little lost here.  You say "the latter often have great remorse for their sins", are you talking about Pharisees and publicans?  Are you saying that they, like ignorant and weak sinners, have great remorse, but they are wedded to the whole concept of outward religious display so much, to the exclusion of conversion of the heart, that they are "trapped"?  That they have the knowledge, and they perform the observance, but they still keep sinning and don't know how to stop?  Help me out here.
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