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Offline xavierpope

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Already taken place?
« on: February 03, 2024, 02:39:36 PM »
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  • Hello all 

    I know everyone on this forum gets annoyed at me. But I believe the second coming has already taken place between 2020- 2023. So we are just awaiting the rest of the apocalypse and the last judgement.  I belive Jesus has separated his sheep ans goats with the mark on the right and left hand. I believe he came as fire and looked like the sun, the delusion that God will send so all will be condemned. I notice during that period the sun looked like a blanc disc that was described at Fatima.

    Does anyone else believe this?


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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #1 on: February 03, 2024, 02:42:43 PM »
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  • The bible also states to hide indoors until his wrath has past.


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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #2 on: February 03, 2024, 02:54:50 PM »
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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #3 on: February 03, 2024, 02:55:46 PM »
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  • How can I put this both gracefully and yet colloquially so you understand.

    Perhaps this:  Dude, your bread ain't fully baked.
    "I distrust every idea that does not seem obsolete and grotesque to my contemporaries."
    Nicolás Gómez Dávila

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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #4 on: February 03, 2024, 02:57:10 PM »
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  • Are you a Protestant? 


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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #5 on: February 03, 2024, 03:15:35 PM »
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  • No catholic, but the church has never fully explained the apocalypse,  it just says that christ will come again in his glorified state, ( not human) and we will have the last judgment 

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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #6 on: February 03, 2024, 03:26:24 PM »
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  • The cheese has slid completely off his cracker.

    There is no part of the OP that isn't 100% batshit insane.

    Dude, your bread ain't fully baked.

    Funny you should say that, because HE sounds fully "baked"... :laugh1:


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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #7 on: February 03, 2024, 03:31:25 PM »
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  • No catholic, but the church has never fully explained the apocalypse,  it just says that christ will come again in his glorified state, ( not human) and we will have the last judgment
    The glorified nature is still a human stabstance, one in which all the elect will come to share on the day of resuurection.
    "I distrust every idea that does not seem obsolete and grotesque to my contemporaries."
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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #8 on: February 03, 2024, 05:33:01 PM »
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  • "Ye men of Galilee, why stand you looking up to heaven? This Jesus who is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come, as you have seen him going into heaven."  (Acts 1:11)

    I haven't even heard rumours that anyone come to earth in the same manner...except on Ancient Aliens.


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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #9 on: February 03, 2024, 06:15:49 PM »
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  • this is my opinion.  When did satan's time of 100 years begin?  I MO it was 1930 when Pope Pius did not consecrate russia,  pope did not heed the request/command of God.  IMO these are the latter times and IMO satan has to 2030 about.  IMO. back up 3 and half years to 2027 this Mass will come to an end, Chapter 12 of Daniel.

    We understand thats Our Lady told Sister Lucia that the pope did not consecrate russia, that he would become like King Louis XIV, dethroned and beheaded. IMO the pope lost his authority(transitional pope) and the church was beheaded.

    A saint was once heard to say, "It would be better to be without the Sun, then to lose the Mass(Precious Blood). This the continual Blood is the Mass on the earth then there is  Eternal Blood.

    IMO Pope Leo XIII and Cardinal Manning and others knew of Satan having it out with Christ.  They KNEW something was coming and Vatican I council just had to be etc.  "The True Story of the Council, by Cardinal Manning and also read his 4 lectures.  What is coming is the tribulations mentioned in Chapter 12 of Daniel, tribulations like we have never known before. 

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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #10 on: February 03, 2024, 06:19:20 PM »
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  • this is my opinion.  When did satan's time of 100 years begin?

    I lean toward the 75-year version of the story, and believe that it began in 1958 with the bogus "election" of Angelo Roncalli, which would put the end of Satan's time in 2033.

    Our Lady requested the consecration of Russia on June 13, 1929.  Later Our Lord appeared to her, complaining that the consecration had not been done and that the Popes were following the examples of the Kings of France.  So, Our Lord asked the Kings of France to consecrate their country to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and exactly 100 years to the day from the request, the King was deposed.  That would put some kind of chastisement as beginning on June 13, 2029, with the restoration / triumph of the Church in 2033 (75 years after the 1958 usurpation by the Antipopes).


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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #11 on: February 03, 2024, 06:28:52 PM »
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  • IMO it was 1930 when Pope Pius did not consecrate russia,  pope did not heed the request/command of God.

    Pius XI didn't have to perform the consecration right away, but we know later that the Third Secret foretold the great apostasy, and that it had to be revealed around 1960 because it would become clearer then (what happened around that time?).

    Pius XII was consecrated a bishop on the same day as the first apparition of Our Lady at Fatima on May 13, 1917, and reportedly saw the miracle of the sun in the Vatican gardens, and often thought of himself as "the Fatima pope".  Well, he was the Fatima pope alright, but not in the way that he had hoped.  He was SUPPOSED to have made the consecration and averted Vatican II and the line of Antipopes, but he never did.  Instead, his was the watership papacy that led directly to Vatican II.  He said at one point, "After me, the deluge." ... where it almost could have been rephrased "Because of me, the deluge."  Not only because he didn't perform the consecration, but because he did nothing to stop the spread of Modernism and even encouraged it in some ways, failing to defend Father Feeney against the heresiarch Cushing, opening the door to evolution, opening the door to Catholic birth control in NFP, setting up Bugnini to begin his liturgical experimentations, and appointing nearly every bishop (during his very lengthy reign) who would later bring us the glories of Vatican II (surely he could have found an anti-Modernist priest in every diocese to elevate to the episcopacy ... and that is THE single most important job of any pope, more than writing Encyclicals or delivering long-winded rambling speeches to a group of midwives).

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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #12 on: February 03, 2024, 06:34:58 PM »
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  • Hello all

    I know everyone on this forum gets annoyed at me. But I believe the second coming has already taken place between 2020- 2023. So we are just awaiting the rest of the apocalypse and the last judgement.  I belive Jesus has separated his sheep ans goats with the mark on the right and left hand. I believe he came as fire and looked like the sun, the delusion that God will send so all will be condemned. I notice during that period the sun looked like a blanc disc that was described at Fatima.

    Does anyone else believe this?

    Nobody believes this.  It's been constant teaching, from the unanimous consensus of the Church Fathers on, and believed by every Catholic everywhere, that when Our Lord returns, that will mark the consummation (end) of the world, immediately after which will come the Last Judgment.  Our Lord Himself taught that when He returns He will not come in a specific location, but will be seen everywhere and by all, like lightning flashing across the sky (not disguised as the sun).

    Where do you get this stuff?

    And, every time you post it here, it's unanimously shot down (no one believes this, and no Catholic has ever believed this) ... and yet you persist with this delusion or hallucination or whatever it is that you're having.

    If the Last Judgment had already taken place, we'd all be either in Heaven or in Hell, not continuing on the earth, and we'd be in our risen bodies.

    That much the Church has absolutely explained, repeatedly.  While the Church has not settled every possible explanation of the details surrounding the time of the Antichrist, Catholic eschatology, the Four Last Things, has been settled and undisputed, especially that the Second Coming of Jesus will be the consummation of the world, and will be followed immediately by the Last Judgment.  If Christ had returned, none of us would be here.

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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #13 on: February 03, 2024, 06:46:46 PM »
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  • "Ye men of Galilee, why stand you looking up to heaven? This Jesus who is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come, as you have seen him going into heaven."  (Acts 1:11)

    I haven't even heard rumours that anyone come to earth in the same manner...except on Ancient Aliens.

    Not to digress, or, well, maybe to digress, since there's not much more to say about the OP that hasn't been said the several dozen previous times it's been posted, but my theory is that the Antichrist will "present" as an alien, and that's why everyone is being pre-programmed to accept the notion of aliens.  Alien will show up and claim that all the world's major religious figures, Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, Buddha, etc. were actually aliens sent to intervene in human development.  Alien will then simulate many of the miracles Christ performed, and will even shape-shift into some resemblance of these.  IMO, nothing less than something like this would be required to "dupe" the entire world ... and 99.9% of the world would fall for this, because they've been prepared psychologically to accept it.  His last simulated miracle will be to imitate the Ascension ... and that's when God finally strikes him down.

    If some Muslim or Jew came along claiming this role, that of a World Savior, Christians would reject it as diabolical nonsense.  If some Christian, he would be rejected by Muslims, Jews, etc.  It's only an Alien type character that could fool the entire world.

    I also believe THAT is the true reason for the "globe earth" conspiracy, and the desire to hide Flat Earth, because if there's a flat earth with a firmament, and there aren't these billions of planets everywhere across the vast reaches of "space", you wouldn't be able to sell people on aliens.

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    Re: Already taken place?
    « Reply #14 on: February 03, 2024, 06:51:32 PM »
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    because if there's a flat earth with a firmament, and there aren't these billions of planets everywhere across the vast reaches of "space", you wouldn't be able to sell people on aliens.
    Totally agree.  You also wouldn’t be able to sell evolution, AI, nanotechnology, etc.  


    And, unfortunately, the “smoking man” from the X-Files died, so we don’t have any people left to expose all this stuff as govt brainwashing and military lies.