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1963 Divine Office vs 1950-1959
« on: March 22, 2021, 09:24:22 PM »
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  • How do these divine offices differ? Is it like the difference between 1962 missal and 1955?

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    Re: 1963 Divine Office vs 1950-1959
    « Reply #1 on: March 23, 2021, 01:31:43 AM »
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  • I can't give a scholarly reply, but one resource for comparison is  https://www.divinumofficium.com/.

    Click the desktop tab.  At the next window click the version of the breviary you want to study, the language you want to use, and then the hour of the office.

    At the same window the "Versions" and "Rubrics" tabs provide good information.


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    Re: 1963 Divine Office vs 1950-1959
    « Reply #2 on: March 23, 2021, 10:26:16 AM »
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  • How do these divine offices differ? Is it like the difference between 1962 missal and 1955?
    It's mostly a lot of deletions. 
    The only thing that was really added rather than deleted when you compare 1950 to 1962/3 is the Feast of St. Joseph the Worker. The creation of that feast and it's placement on May 1st necessitated the Feast of Sts. Philip and James (previously celebrated on May 1st) being moved to May 11th. May 11th was previously a feria, so the Office of May 11th is the only Office I'm aware of in the whole liturgical year where the amount of reading for the day would've increased when comparing 1950 to 1962/3. As a feria it would've had Matins of 3 lessons and nine psalms along with ferial psalms at all the hours, whereas May 11th becoming a feast of the Apostles made the day have 9 lessons and 9 psalms at Matins.
    Aside from this addition (along with additions of other Saints' days that would've been approximately the same length as whatever they replaced) here are some of the notable changes/deletions:
    1) Feast rankings (1950: Double 1st Class, Double 2nd Class, Double Major, Double Minor, Semidouble, Simple, Feria; 1962: 1st Class, 2nd Class, 3rd Class, Feria)
    2) All octaves were abolished except those of Christmas, Easter, and Pentecost
    3) The recitation of the Our Father and Hail Mary (as well as the Creed before Matins and Prime) before the hours was abolished.
    4) The change of the doxology (last verse) of hymns was mostly (not entirely) abolished
    5) 1950: Double 2nd Class Feasts use festal psalms; 1962: 2nd Class feasts use ferial psalms at most hours (with exceptions).
    6) 1950: All Doubles 2nd Class take precedence when occurring on most Sundays; 1962: all Sundays take precedence over an occurring 2nd class feast.
    There are many other differences, some big and some small. Also, some of these changes were actually made in 1955, not 1962.

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    Re: 1963 Divine Office vs 1950-1959
    « Reply #3 on: March 23, 2021, 10:43:51 AM »
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  • If I am not mistaken, they also removed the vast majority of recitations of the Athanasian Creed - traditionally all "green" Sundays contained the Athanasian Creed at Prime after the Psalms.  I dont know the year it changed but I know the breviary SSPX uses only retains this recitation of the Athanasian Creed on Trinity Sunday.  This change as well as the reduction of Sunday (and many feast day) lessons from 9 to 3 are the ones most redolent of modernism as far as I know

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    Re: 1963 Divine Office vs 1950-1959
    « Reply #4 on: March 23, 2021, 11:27:52 AM »
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  • If I am not mistaken, they also removed the vast majority of recitations of the Athanasian Creed - traditionally all "green" Sundays contained the Athanasian Creed at Prime after the Psalms.  I dont know the year it changed but I know the breviary SSPX uses only retains this recitation of the Athanasian Creed on Trinity Sunday.  This change as well as the reduction of Sunday (and many feast day) lessons from 9 to 3 are the ones most redolent of modernism as far as I know
    How does 1963/1962 differ to 1958/55? Whenever I prayed the office online I used 1958.


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    Re: 1963 Divine Office vs 1950-1959
    « Reply #5 on: March 23, 2021, 12:09:19 PM »
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  • How does 1963/1962 differ to 1958/55? Whenever I prayed the office online I used 1958.
    Simply click on the link provided in reply #1.  You could do a direct comparison of the varying breviary rubrics, or you could, at the bottom of the second window, consult the information provided by the "Versions" and "Rubrics" tabs.  These resources provide all the answers to your questions.

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    Re: 1963 Divine Office vs 1950-1959
    « Reply #6 on: March 23, 2021, 03:39:51 PM »
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  • Some parts differ little. The only public liturgy here in Ireland are Sunday Vespers. My 1940 St Andrew's missal is perfectly adequate for covering an office which is probably sung from 1963 books.


     

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