Author Topic: "They took away the Church of my youth" (Read 3425 times)

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2007, 11:21:47 PM »

For years, the Catholic Church, guardian of the entire Truth, fought against "the world" and "the prince of this world", Satan.

At Vatican II, due to the influence of Modernism (condemned by Pope St. Pius X), many bishops desired a "truce" with the world -- they wanted to be accepted at long last. They were sick of being looked down on by "men of the world".

Vatican II was for the Church was 1789 (the French Revolution) was for Europe. The latter was the death-knell, the nail in the coffin for Christendom (=the Gospel message having worked its way into the social fabric of life). The former was the surrender of the Church to the world FORMED BY that revolution -- a world that had completely cast God aside.

That will have to do for now -- on this issue, I could write a book.

In Christ,

Matthew

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #2 on:** March 14, 2007, 10:29:37 PM »

Quote from: ChantCd

Vatican II was for the Church was 1789 (the French Revolution) was for Europe...the surrender of the Church to the world FORMED BY that revolution -- a world that had completely cast God aside...

So, the Immaculate Spouse of Christ surrendered to the world? That is like saying she was unfaithful to her heavenly Husband, and laid down with the devil. I shall never believe such a thing about my holy and spotless mother - NEVER.

Quo Vadis Petre · « **Reply #3 on:** March 14, 2007, 10:56:07 PM »

Quote from: gladius_veritatis

Quote from: ChantCd
Vatican II was for the Church was 1789 (the French Revolution) was for Europe...the surrender of the Church to the world FORMED BY that revolution -- a world that had completely cast God aside...

So, the Immaculate Spouse of Christ surrendered to the world? That is like saying she was unfaithful to her heavenly Husband, and laid down with the devil. I shall never believe such a thing about my holy and spotless mother - NEVER.

I believe ChantCd meant the much of the human element of the Church. He did not mean to insinuate that the gates of Hell have prevailed over the Church.

CampeadorShin · « **Reply #4 on:** March 15, 2007, 01:25:23 PM »

Indeed, I often find myself saying to others, "the Church is perfect, the priests and Bishops are not".

Author Topic: &quot;They took away the Church of my youth&quot; (Read 3425 times)

Author Topic: "They took away the Church of my youth" (Read 3425 times)