Author Topic: What If I am Aware of Some ones Mortal Sin? (Read 4860 times)

JeanMarie · « **on:** January 20, 2012, 05:43:45 PM »

While cleaning our chapel, I was introduced to a man and his wife, who were donating time and materials to do some maintenance. I attend a Mass serviced by a retired priest, but in a regular diocese. (The chapel was slated to be closed, and the diocesan priest said we could use the chapel, if we found a priest to say the Traditional Mass.) The wife began "chatting". Almost in one breath, she casually mentioned that she and her "husband" are both divorced without annulments. She said one priest told her she could receive communion if she wanted to, so she does. She said that the Church needs to allow for divorce because it's no big deal. On and on she went, criticizing the Church for its silly ways. I was so speechless, all i replied was something useless, such as, "I'm sorry you are in such a horrible situation." This "husband and wife" attend the Traditional Mass, because it's convenient to their house. They donate a lot of time and money, because our altar server asked them to. I told the altar server to be careful accepting so much help, under the circuмstances. The altar server said he will not think about it. I can not tell the priest, either, because he will not care. (While he was ordained in the Old Rite, he is a modernist, and would be angry that I felt he should know.) Do I have any further duties to protect God from this sacrilege?

inprincipio · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2012, 06:15:54 PM »

I don't think there is anything you can do except tell the woman that she should check with the bishop of her diocese before she continues to receive communion. Sometimes people will go to the priest who gives them the answer they want to hear and discount anyone else whose advise they find distasteful. In the long run, she is responsible for own soul. Other than that, all you can do is pray for her.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2012, 06:28:24 PM »

No, there's nothing you can do but pray for them. I totally feel your pain!

I used to be shocked at the number of divorced and adulterous people at the trad chapel and the violence. But, truly there but for the grace of God go I.

Fifty years ago every Catholic was traditional, including all types of sinners.

They may have the admiration and gratitude of the group and you'll have to
mortify that uneasy sense of injustice for the betterment of your own soul.

TraceG · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2012, 06:44:03 PM »

Quote from: JeanMarie

While cleaning our chapel, I was introduced to a man and his wife, who were donating time and materials to do some maintenance. I attend a Mass serviced by a retired priest, but in a regular diocese. (The chapel was slated to be closed, and the diocesan priest said we could use the chapel, if we found a priest to say the Traditional Mass.) The wife began "chatting". Almost in one breath, she casually mentioned that she and her "husband" are both divorced without annulments. She said one priest told her she could receive communion if she wanted to, so she does. She said that the Church needs to allow for divorce because it's no big deal. On and on she went, criticizing the Church for its silly ways. I was so speechless, all i replied was something useless, such as, "I'm sorry you are in such a horrible situation." This "husband and wife" attend the Traditional Mass, because it's convenient to their house. They donate a lot of time and money, because our altar server asked them to. I told the altar server to be careful accepting so much help, under the circuмstances. The altar server said he will not think about it. I can not tell the priest, either, because he will not care. (While he was ordained in the Old Rite, he is a modernist, and would be angry that I felt he should know.) Do I have any further duties to protect God from this sacrilege?

This is cause of the insanity since V2. A priest to tell her she can receive Holy Communion is gravely wrong. There is a condoning of her to commit sacrilege. An annulment is NOT an excuse, an annulment is a recognized state that a sacramental marriage never existed. Oh and the Church that Jesus founded is silly for not recognizing divorce? GOD makes the rules not mankind. This is a rotten situation.
"This "husband and wife" attend the Traditional Mass, because it's convenient to their house." tells me that they find the TLM as a novelty. I can't stand pseudo catholics that take that position. If you did what is right you will face ostracizing, which is a reality I recently had to face.

Caraffa · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2012, 10:05:46 PM »

Quote from: St John Chrysostom

I speak not only to the communicant, but also I say to the priest who ministers the Sacrament: Distribute this gift with much care. There is no small punishment for you, if being conscious of any wickedness in any man, you allow him to partake of the banquet of the table: ‘Shall I not now require his blood at your hand?’ (2 Sam. 4:11). If some public figure, or some wealthy person who is unworthy, presents himself to receive Holy Communion, forbid him. The authority that you have is greater than his. Consider if your task were to guard a clean spring of water for a flock, and you saw a sheep approach with mire on its mouth--you would not allow it to stoop down and pollute the stream. You are now entrusted with a spring, not of water, but of blood and of spirit. If you see someone having sin in his heart (which is far more grievous than earth and mire), coming to receive the Eucharist, are you not concerned? Do you try to prevent him? What excuse can you have, if you do not?

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #5 on:** February 19, 2012, 09:01:24 PM »

Years and years ago, I confided in a woman who was in an adulterous relationship to break it off immediately and to go to confession at the soonest. I did say she could consider going to a Catholic Church that is at a considerable distance from her home.

In the example provided, I would suggest clearly that examining your conscience, becoming disgusted with your sin (particular) and to go to confession promptly.

This is easier said than done but what kind of charity would we have towards others if we allowed a person to continue on in a state of mortal sin?

clare · « **Reply #6 on:** February 21, 2012, 02:48:41 PM »

Why is this in the Library?

Diego · « **Reply #7 on:** February 24, 2012, 11:05:27 AM »

Because this forum gets the big picture ("the Titanic") and doesn't obsess about minor matters ("the deck chairs").

clare · « **Reply #8 on:** February 24, 2012, 04:23:49 PM »

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copticruiser · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2012, 02:17:18 AM »

All I know is that in our Ukrainian Catholic Teachings (I assume is the same) one way to participate in anothers sin is SILENCE we are obliged to say something. I try to be charitable and pick an appropriate time.

Being catholic is not the easiest thing in the world and the know we know the more we are accountable for

MUCH IS GIVEN MUCH IS REQUIRED sorry trying not to scare u but we do have a responsibility.

Annie