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  • Attached: brochures part 1 and part 2


    Catholic Action Resource Center


    These two useful brochures contain a lot of quotes from ABL regarding union
    with Rome.

    Part 1 begins thus (this is on the "back" which is really the inside of the front
    leaf of the first brochure):

    THE MIND OF THE
    FOUNDER (part 1)

    Recently, there has been much talk and insistence upon
    Bishop Fellay’s “grace of state” to conduct negotiations
    with Modernist Rome, as though that grace is an infallible
    grace that cannot possibly “get things wrong.” Let it be said
    that ALL CATHOLICS have the grace of state available to
    fulfill their role in life
    —popes, cardinals, bishops, priests,
    husbands, wives, parents, teachers, etc.—yet look at the
    mess the world is in despite the available “graces of state.”

    All this reminds me of Vatican II with its endless talk of
    the “rights of man” while ignoring the “rights of God.” Let
    us not focus so much on Bishop Fellay’s “grace of state”
    as a mere superior general of the SSPX, but let us go
    higher, and let us look at the “grace of state” of the 1970
    FOUNDER of the organization, that Bishop Fellay now
    leads. The “grace of the founder” is what the future leaders of
    the organization should follow, if they are going to be true to
    their “grace of state.”
    Most, if not all, religious orders, sooner
    or later, stray from the initial spirit of their founders. Fr. Ludovic
    Barrielle* (the priest chosen by Archbishop Lefebvre
    to be the spiritual director of his seminary in Ecône) once
    said that the time it takes for a religious order to start to
    drift from its founder’s moorings is around 40 years. Today,
    40 or so years after the founding of the SSPX, we see
    serious problems and divisions facing the SSPX (or the
    NOVUS–SSPX). When religious orders thus drift away, a
    reform is usually carried out by some, in order to recapture
    the original ideals, attitudes and spirit of their founders.

    Perhaps the time has come for the SSPX to do the
    same. But to recapture the Archbishop’s spirit, we must
    carefully, frequently and zealously read the books in which
    Archbishop Lefebvre’s words are printed.
    I remember a
    traditional priest, a professor of dogmatic theology, once
    saying: “There are many commentaries and explanations
    written on the Summa Theologica of St. Thomas Aquinas,
    but many, if not most of them, merely complicate the simple
    thought of St. Thomas. Go to the source! Read St. Thomas
    first, and then, if you cannot understand him, then read the
    commentary.” Similarly, in these days, when we are being
    told how to interpret Archbishop Lefebvre by this or that
    priest, who professes to know the Archbishop’s thought—
    go first to the source, the Archbishop!
    What was bad in his
    day, has become much worse today. What applied then,
    applies even more today. If he spoke strongly then, he
    would speak more strongly today! He spoke simply while
    alive, and he still speaks simply from beyond the grave!


    *Fr. Ludovic Barrielle gave the Society the book Christian Warfare, which has
    become the framework and principle textbook of the world-famous Ignatian
    retreats conducted at all the SSPX retreat centers.

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    Two excellent brochures on Archbishop Lefebvre "Beyond the Grave"
    « Reply #1 on: August 26, 2012, 02:35:01 AM »
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  • I just spent an hour correcting typos and stuff on this copy and the CI site logged
    me out so I lost my copy. I'm not about to do that all over again.

    But there is one place that is worth noting, that ABL mentions the canonized
    Mass twice here, and explains how the Canonized Traditional Latin Mass is so
    canonized in perpetuity by Pope St. Pius V, such that no future pope can ever
    come along and say it wasn't canonized. It seems to me to hint at a warning for
    the postConciliar popes not to pursue so-called canonization of John XXIII et. al.,
    because that would be ASKING for a future pope to invalidate all of these things,
    including the erstwhile postConciliar papacies themselves. We still have Apostolic
    succession through the Lefebvre line and the Thuc line. So watch out!

    I almost forgot to explain, that this sermon is the one linked on the third leaf of
    the first brochure, on the following website (I'm posting it here because it's fortuitous
    that Menzingen has not "scrubbed" this from the website yet, since it so clearly is
    in contradiction with +Fellay's agenda of reconciliation-at-any-price:

    http://www.angelusonline.org/index. php?section=articles&subsection=show_article&article_id=72)





     July 1978      Print


    The Archbishop Speaks


    Sermon delivered by His Grace,
    Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre
    Founder and Superior General of the Society of St, Pius X
    on the Feast of Saints Peter and Paul, June 29, 1976,
    at the International Seminary of St. Pius X
    Ecône, Switzerland   [Econe]
    on the occasion of the ordination of
    thirteen priests and thirteen sub-deacons.

    In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

    My dear friends, dear confreres, dear brethren, who have come from every country, from all horizons. It is a joy for us to welcome you and to feel your presence so close to us at this moment which is so important for our Society and also for the Church. I think that, if the pilgrims have permitted themselves to make this sacrifice to journey day and night, to come from distant regions to participate in this ceremony, it is because they had the conviction that they were coming to participate in a ceremony which would fill their hearts with joy, because they will now have the certitude in returning to their homes that the Catholic Church continues.

    Ah, I know well that the difficulties are numerous in this undertaking which we have been told is foolhardy. They say that we are in a deadlock. Why? Because from Rome have come to us, especially in the last three months, since March 19 in particular, the Feast of St. Joseph, demands, supplications, orders and threats to inform us that we must cease our activity, to inform us that we must not perform these ordinations to the priesthood. They have been pressing these last few days. In the last twelve days in particular, we have not ceased to receive messages and envoys from Rome enjoining us to refrain from performing these ordinations.

    But if in all objectivity we seek the true motive animating those who ask us not to perform these ordinations, if we look for the hidden motive, it is because we are ordaining these priests that they may say the Mass of all time. It is because they know that these priests will be faithful to the Mass of the Church, to the Mass of tradition, to the Mass of all time, that they urge us not to ordain them.

    In proof of this, consider that six times in the last three weeks—six times—we have been asked to reestablish normal relations with Rome and to give as proof the acceptance of the new rite; and I have been asked to celebrate it myself. They have gone so far as to send me someone who offered to concelebrate with me in the new rite so as to manifest that I accepted voluntarily this new liturgy, saying that in this way all would be straightened out between us and Rome. They put a new Missal into my hands, saying, "Here is the Mass that you must celebrate and that you shall celebrate henceforth in all your houses." They told me as well that if on this date, today, this 29th of June, before your entire assembly, we celebrated a Mass according to the new rite, all would be straightened out henceforth between ourselves and Rome. Thus it is clear, it is evident that it is on the problem of the Mass that the whole drama between Ecône and Rome depends.

    Are we wrong in obstinately wanting to keep the rite of all time? We have, of course, prayed, we have consulted, we have reflected, we have meditated to discover if it is not indeed we who are in error, or if we do not really have a sufficient reason not to submit ourselves to the new rite. And in fact, the very insistence of those who were sent from Rome to ask us to change rites makes us wonder.

    And we have the precise conviction that this new rite of Mass expresses a new faith, a faith which is not ours, a faith which is not the Catholic Faith. This new Mass is a symbol, is an expression, is an image of a new faith, of a modernist faith. For it the most holy Church has wished to guard throughout the centuries this precious treasure which she has given us of the rite of Holy Mass which was canonized by Saint Pius V, it has not been without purpose. It is because this Mass contains our whole faith, the whole Catholic Faith: faith in the Most Holy Trinity, faith in the divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, faith in the Redemption of Our Lord Jesus Christ, faith in the Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ which flowed for the redemption of our sins, faith in supernatural grace which comes to us from the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, which comes to us from the Cross, which comes to us through all the Sacraments.

    This is what we believe. This is what we believe in celebrating the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass of all time. It is a lesson of faith and at the same time a source of our faith, indispensable for us in this age when our faith is attacked from all sides. We have need of this true Mass, of this Mass of all time, of this sacrifice of Our Lord Jesus Christ to fill our souls with the Holy Ghost and with the strength of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Now it is evident that the new rite, if I may say so, supposes another conception of the Catholic religion. . . another religion. It is no longer the priest who offers the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, it is the assembly. Now this is an entire program. . . an entire program. Henceforth it is the assembly also that replaces authority in the Church. It is the assembly of bishops that replaces the power of [individual] bishops. It is the priests' council that replaces the power of the bishop in the diocese. It is numbers that command from now on in the holy Church. And this is expressed in the Mass precisely because the assembly replaces the priest, to such a point that now many priests no longer want to celebrate Holy Mass when there is no assembly. Slowly but surely the Protestant notion of the Mass is being introduced into the holy Church.

    And this is consistent with the mentality of modern man, with the mentality of modernist man. . . absolutely consistent. For it is the democratic ideal which is the fundamental idea of modern man, that is to say, that the power lies with the assembly, that authority is in the people, in the masses, and not in God. And this is most grave. Because we believe that God is all-powerful; we believe that God has all authority; we believe that all authority comes from God. Ornnis potestas a Deo. All authority comes from God. We do not believe that authority comes from the people that authority comes from below. No, that is the mentality of modern man.

    And the new Mass is not less than the expression of this idea that authority is at the base, and no longer in God. This Mass is no longer a hierarchical Mass; it is a democratic Mass. And this is most grave. It is the expression of a whole new ideology. The ideology of modern man has been brought into our most sacred rites.

    And this is what is presently corrupting the entire Church. For by this idea of power bestowed on the lower rank, in the Holy Mass, they have destroyed the priesthood! They are destroying the priesthood, for what is the priest, if the priest no longer has a personal power, that power which is given to him by his ordination, as these future priests are going to receive it in a moment? They are going to receive a character, a character which will put them above the people of God! Nevermore shall they be able to say after the ceremony about to be performed, they shall never be able to say, "We are men like other men." This is not true.

    They  will no longer be men like other men! They will be men of God. They will be men, I should say, who almost participate in the divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ by His Sacerdotal character. For Our Lord Jesus Christ is Priest for eternity, Priest according to the order of Melchisedech, because He is Jesus Christ; because the divinity of the Word of God was infused into the humanity which He assumed. And it is at the moment that He assumed this humanity in the womb of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary that Jesus became Priest.

    The grace in which these young priests are going to participate is not the sanctifying grace in which Our Lord Jesus Christ gives us to participate by the grace of Baptism; it is the grace of union—that grace of union unique to Our Lord Jesus Christ. It is in this grace that they are going to participate, for it is by the grace of union with the divinity of God, with the divinity of the Word, that Our Lord Jesus Christ became Priest; that Our Lord Jesus Christ is King; that Our Lord Jesus Christ is Judge; that Our Lord Jesus Christ ought to be adored by all men: by His grace of union, sublime grace! Grace which no being here below could ever receive—this grace of the divinity itself descending into a humanity which is Our Lord Jesus Christ, anointing it, after a fashion, like the oil that descends on the head and consecrates him who receives this oil. The humanity of Our Lord Jesus Christ was penetrated by the divinity of the Word of God, and thus He was made Priest. He was made Mediator between God and men.

    It is in this very grace, which will place them above the people of God, that these priests are going to participate. They too will be the intermediaries between God and God's people. They will not merely be the representatives of the people of God; they will not be the functionaries of the people of God; they will not be "president of the assembly." They are priests for eternity, marked by this character for eternity, and no one has the right not to respect them; even if they themselves did not respect this character—they have it always in themselves, they will always have it in themselves.

    This is what we believe, this is our faith, and this is what constitutes our Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. It is the priest who offers the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass; and the faithful participate in this offering, with all their heart, and with all their soul, but it is not they who offer the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. As proof, consider that the priest, when he is alone, offers the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in the same manner and with the same value as if there were a thousand people around him. His sacrifice has an infinite value: the sacrifice of Our Lord Jesus Christ offered by the Priest has an infinite value.

    This is what we believe. This is why we think that we cannot accept the new rite, which is the work of another ideology, of a new ideology. They thought that they would attract the world by accepting the ideas of the world. They thought that they would attract to the Church those who do not believe by accepting the ideas of these persons who do not believe, by accepting the ideas of modern man— this modern man who is a liberal, who is a modernist; who is a man who accepts the plurality of religions, who no longer accepts the social royalty of Our Lord Jesus Christ. This I have heard twice from the envoys of the Holy See, who told me that the social royalty of Our Lord Jesus Christ was no longer possible in our time; that we must accept definitively the pluralism of religions. That is what they told me. That the encyclical Quas primas, which is so beautiful, on the royalty of Our Lord Jesus Christ, which was written by Pope Pius XI, would never be written today by the Pope. This is what they said to me— the official envoys of the Holy See!

    Well, we are not of this new religion! We do not accept this new religion! We are of the religion of all time; we are of the Catholic religion. We are not of this "universal religion" as they call it today—this is not the Catholic religion any more. We are not of this liberal, modernist religion which has its own worship, its own priests, its own faith, its own catechisms, its own Bible, the "ecuмenical Bible." There is no "ecuмenical" Bible. There is only the Bible of God, the Bible of the Holy Ghost, written under the influence of the Holy Ghost. It is the Word of God. We do not have the right to mix it with the words of men. There is no "ecuмenical Bible" which could possibly exist. There is only one Word, the Word of the Holy Ghost. We do not accept the catechisms which no longer uphold our Creed, and so on and so forth.

    We cannot accept these things. They are contrary to our faith. We regret infinitely, it is an immense, immense pain for us, to think that we are in difficulty with Rome because of our faith! How is this possible? It is something that exceeds the imagination, that we should never have been able to imagine, that we should never have been able to believe, especially in our childhood—then when all was uniform, when the whole Church believed in her general unity, and held the same faith, the same Sacraments, the same Sacrifice of the Mass, the same catechism. And behold, suddenly all is in division, in chaos.

    I said as much to those who came from Rome. I said so: Christians are torn apart in their families, in their homes, among their children; they are torn apart in their hearts by this division in the Church, by this new religion now being taught and practiced. Priests are dying prematurely, torn apart in their hearts and in their souls at  the thought that they no longer know what to do: either to submit to obedience and lose, in a way, the faith of their childhood and of their youth, and renounce the promises which they made at the time of their ordination in taking the anti-modernist oath; or to have the impression of separating themselves from him who is our father, the Pope, from him who is the representative of St. Peter. What agony for these priests! Many priests have died prematurely of grief. Priests are now chased from their churches, persecuted, because they say the Mass of all time.

    We are in a truly dramatic situation. We have to choose between an appearance, I should say, of disobedience—for the Holy Father cannot ask I us to abandon our faith; it is impossible, impossible—this abandonment of our faith! We choose not to abandon our faith, for in that we cannot go wrong. In that which the Catholic Church has taught for two thousand years, the Church cannot be in error. It is absolutely impossible, and that is why we are attached to this tradition which is expressed in such an admirable and definitive manner, as Pope Saint Pius V said so well, in a definitive way, in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

    Tomorrow perhaps, in the newspapers, will appear our condemnation* It is quite possible, because of these ordinations of today. I myself shall probably be struck by suspension. These young priests will be struck by an irregularity which in theory should prevent them from saying Holy Mass. It is possible. Well, I appeal to Saint Pius V—Saint Pius V, who in his bull said that, in perpetuity, no priest could incur a censure, whatever it might be, in perpetuity, for saying this Mass. And consequently, this censure, this excommunication, if there was one, these censures, if there are any, are absolutely invalid, contrary to that which Saint Pius V established in perpetuity in his bull: that never in any age could one inflict a censure on a priest who says this Holy Mass.

    Why? Because this Mass is canonized. He canonized it definitively. Now a Pope cannot remove a canonization. The Pope can make a new rite, but he cannot remove a canonization. He cannot forbid a Mass that is canonized. Thus, if he has canonized a Saint, another Pope cannot come and say that this Saint is no longer canonized. That is not possible! Now this Holy Mass was canonized by Pope Saint Pius V. And that is why we can say it in all tranquility, in all security, and even be certain that, in saying this Mass, we are professing our faith, we are upholding our faith, and we are upholding the faith of the Catholic people. This is, indeed, the best manner of upholding it!

    And that is why we are going to proceed in a few moments with these ordinations. Certainly we should desire to have a blessing as was given in the past by the Holy See—a benediction came from Rome for the newly ordained. But we believe that God is here present, that He sees all things, and that He also blesses this ceremony which we are performing; and that one day He will certainly draw from it the fruits which He desires, and will aid us. in any case, to maintain our faith and to serve the Church.

    We ask this especially of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary and of Saints Peter and Paul today. Let us ask the Most Blessed Virgin, who is the Mother of the Priesthood, to give these young men the true grace of the priesthood, to give them the Holy Ghost in Whose giving she was intermediary the day of Pentecost.

    Let us ask Saint Peter and Saint Paul to maintain in us this faith in Peter. Ah, yes, we believe in Peter, we believe in the successor of Peter. But as Pope Pius IX says well in his dogmatic constitution, the Pope has received the Holy Ghost, not to make new truths, but to maintain us in the faith of all time. This is the definition of the Pope made at the time of the First Vatican Council by Pope Pius IX. And that is why we are persuaded that, in maintaining these traditions, we are manifesting our love, our docility, our obedience to the Successor of Peter.

    In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

     

    EDITOR'S NOTE:
    True to his prophecy, His Grace was informed by [Rome] that he had been suspended a divinis shortly after his ordination sermon was delivered. In commenting on this suspension the Archbishop had this to say:

    ". . .In what does it really consist? It deprives me of the right inherent in the priest, and a fortiori in the Bishop, of celebrating Holy Mass, and of conferring the Sacraments, and of preaching in consecrated places: namely, I am forbidden to celebrate the New Mass, to confer the new sacraments, to preach the new doctrine.

    Here is one more proof that this new Church, which they themselves have now described as "Conciliar", is destroying itself. His Eminence, Msgr. Benelli himself, in his letter of last June 25th [1976|, so designates it. Speaking of the seminarians, he writes, "If they have good will and are seriously prepared for a priestly ministry in true fidelity to the Conciliar Church, finding the best solution for them will then be undertaken, but let them also make a beginning through this act of obedience to Ihe Church."

    What could be clearer? We must henceforth obey and be faithful to the Conciliar Church, no longer to the Catholic Church. Right there is our whole problem: We are suspended a divins by the Conciliar Church and for Ihe Conciliar Church, to which we have no wish to belong!

    That Conciliar Church is a schismatic Church because it breaks with the Catholic Church that has always been. It has its new dogmas, its new priesthood, its new institutions, its new worship, all already condemned by the Church in many a docuмent, official and definitive. . .

    . . .The Church that affirms such errors is at once schismatic and heretical. This Conciliar Church is, therefore, not Catholic. To whatever extent Pope, Bishops, priests, or the faithful adhere to this new church, they separate themselves from the Catholic Church. Today's church is the true Church only to whatever extent it is a continuation of and one body with the Church of always. The norm of Catholic Faith is Tradition. For our part we persevere in the Catholic Church."

    From Reflections on Suspension a divinis
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    Two excellent brochures on Archbishop Lefebvre "Beyond the Grave"
    « Reply #2 on: August 26, 2012, 02:48:51 AM »
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  • The stupid "ink" dried again. The link I provided was defective because of the close
    parenthesis at the end. It should be as follows:

    http://www.angelusonline.org/index.%3Cbr/%3Ephp?section=articles&subsection=show_article&article_id=72
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    Two excellent brochures on Archbishop Lefebvre "Beyond the Grave"
    « Reply #3 on: August 29, 2012, 11:40:22 PM »
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  • One more thing!

    In the Title of this thread I put "RE- UNION WITH ROME," and now, in retrospect that
    looks like "re-union with Rome," but that's not what I was trying to say.

    I wanted to put "RE: Union with Rome" as in, "Regarding Union with Rome,"
    but the title bar doesn't like certain characters, and I cannot view the results of a new
    thread title with "preview" because preview does not always give you what you'll get
    in the title bar, in fact, for once you finally submit the new thread, you cannot revise
    what you submit -- once you hit "submit" it's no longer accessible.

    So instead of the colon, which, as I recall, gets deleted by the system in the final
    copy, as do apostrophes, quotation marks, international characters and other
    items, I put a hyphen, because hyphens survive the system search-and-delete bot.

    That's how that happened. I was trying to avoid a problem and I got a different
    problem that I did not anticipate.

    Union with Rome, as +Williamson has peacefully asserted, is a good thing, under
    normal conditions, such as when Rome is acting according to the grace of the
    Church in the world, as the Holy Mother that Our Lord instituted in the person of
    St. Peter as Prince of the Apostles. And in that case, re-union with Rome would
    be a good thing. But Rome is not acting so, of late, and therefore re-union is rather
    impossible, for the Rome to which anyone, including the SSPX, would re-unite is
    not presently available for us. The Church is in "eclipse," and any re-union now
    would be not a re-union at all, but a NEW ALLIANCE with error, so long as the
    unclean spirit of Vatican II, including false ecuмenism, false religious liberty and
    false episcopal collegiality are the orders of the day and the operational principles
    of so-called Rome. Basically, Rome needs conversion to the one true Faith, outside
    of which there is no salvation.
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    « Reply #4 on: August 30, 2012, 10:46:40 PM »
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  • Perhaps it will be of interest to members and readers that I first heard this
    sermon of ABL (second post above) when I went on an SSPX retreat. They play
    recordings at mealtime for the retreatants to listen, so their minds can focus on
    something relevant to the retreat, without being a repeat of one of the lectures.
    This particular sermon of ABL is one of their favorite recordings to play on the
    second or third day during lunchtime.

    When I heard it, I was so excited, I asked the retreatmaster if I could have a word
    with him, and he told me that it would have to be after lunch, when the others are
    finished. I couldn't wait! But I did wait. Finally, when he had a moment to hear my
    question, I asked him whose sermon this is, and he told me it's a re-reading of the
    sermon that ABL gave on the occasion of the ordinations in Econe in 1976.

    Immediately, I observed that was an entire 12 years BEFORE the Episcopal
    consecrations of the 4 SSPX bishops, in 1988. Fr. said, yes, that is true. He
    seemed to be a bit surprised I would have recognized this and was so excited
    about it. But the fact seemed to be giving him joy to see my fervor. I asked
    him specifically about his use of the term, "canonized" in reference to the TLM,
    and Fr. said that was the first time to his knowledge that anyone had ever used
    the term "canonized" regarding the Traditional Latin Mass. I was referring to the
    following segment:

    Quote
    Well, I appeal to Saint Pius V -- Saint Pius V, who in his bull said that, in perpetuity, no priest could incur a censure, whatever [censure] it might be, in perpetuity, for saying this Mass. -- And consequently, this censure, this excommunication, if there was one, these censures, if there are any, are absolutely invalid, contrary to that which Saint Pius V established in perpetuity in his bull: that never in any age could one inflict a censure on a priest who says this Holy Mass.

    Why? Because this Mass is canonized. He canonized it definitively. Now a Pope cannot remove a canonization. The Pope can make a new rite, but he cannot remove a canonization. He cannot forbid a Mass that is canonized. Thus, if he has canonized a Saint, another Pope cannot come and say that this Saint is no longer canonized. That is not possible! Now this Holy Mass was canonized by Pope Saint Pius V. And that is why we can say it in all tranquility, in all security, and even be certain that, in saying this Mass, we are professing our faith, we are upholding our faith, and we are upholding the faith of the Catholic people. This is, indeed, the best manner of upholding it!



    I asked him if he thought it would be somehow inappropriate to call this Mass
    the "Canonized Traditional Latin Mass" instead of merely the Traditional Latin Mass
    or even the "Tridentine Mass," and he told me that it would be just fine.

    I asked him if he had been aware that Fr. Paul Trinchard had been using this
    language ever since 1994 when he started writing about these things, and he
    said that he thought he had heard about that but he wasn't sure. But in any case,
    it should be fine to  say "Canonized Traditional Latin Mass," CTLM.

    I have encountered priests who celebrate both the Novus Ordo and the CTLM, who
    object to the use of "canonized" to describe a Mass. It seems their problem must
    stem from the fact that this term cannot be used to describe the Novus Ordo
    liturgy, because it does not come to us from antiquity, but rather it is a "banal,
    on-the-spot concoction," drawn up by a Freemason and 6 Protestant ministers.
    Such a thing can never become "canonized," by the very meaning of the term.
    However, we should be careful to watch and see, that it is not done. Whenever you
    hear someone refer to the Novus Ordo liturgy as "canonized," you know that you're
    hearing a huge warning signal. They would have to be speaking from ignorance or
    from deliberate malice, such as to change the meaning of the word, "canonized."

    It seems to me that anyone who is "attached" to the Novus Ordo liturgy would
    likely resent the use of the term canonized in regards to the CTLM because they
    know that this term cannot be legitimately applied to the Novus Ordo, and therefore
    they would have to admit that the CTLM has something that the Novus Ordo can
    never have,
    for it is incapable, by the fact of its very existence, of having this.

    As time goes by, now we see them starting to say that they are in accord with
    tradition because the Novus Ordo whatever is "traditional," since it's been around
    for such a long time. It isn't a big jump from that kind of thinking to saying that
    the Novus Ordo is "canonized."
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    Two excellent brochures on Archbishop Lefebvre "Beyond the Grave"
    « Reply #5 on: February 15, 2013, 11:11:30 AM »
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  • The website,

    http://www.inthissignyoushallconquer.com/pamphlets

    has a growing selection of brochures (pamphlets) that are most helpful in showing
    people what's going on in the SSPX, especially people who are stuck in the
    rut
    of thinking that "everything is fine."  


    You can actually tell them, "I used to be stuck in that rut, too, so I know what
    it's like.  You have my sympathy."  And don't be smug about it.  Charity!  You see,
    they don't think of themselves as being "stuck in a rut."  

    That's one of the characteristics of Modernism:  one of the symptoms is that you
    don't know you're infected with it.




    Here is a 4-part series of new ones that show how Bishop Fellay was singing a
    very different tune when he was first elected SG, and only gradually changed
    his melody.  By the year 2000 definite signs were visible, and he has consistently
    morphed from then, over the past 13 years, to the new and improved version
    of Bishop Fellay that we all know and love..  or so they would lead you to believe.

    The pamphlets are called, as follows:

    1)  Bishop Fellay part 1 of 4:  A Man of Change?  Road to Rome 2000-201?  
    2)  Bishop Fellay part 2 of 4:  A Man of Change?  Road to Rome 2000-201?
    3)  Bishop Fellay part 3 of 4:  A Man of Change?  Road to Rome 2000-201?
    4)  Bishop Fellay part 4 of 4:  A Man of Change?  Road to Rome 2000-201?

    Each one has a quote of J.R.R. Tolkien in different formats:  "Little by little one
    travels far."

    The first one is a bit mistitled because it begins in 1995, after the SG election of
    +Fellay, when he sounded very traditional.  The first quote is from his April 1995
    Letter to Friends and Benefactors No. 48.  And then he started changing.  

    Most of the change occurred after 2000.  The first pamphlet gets into 2000 and
    2001, but then the other 3 pamphlets take it in more detail from then on.  So as
    an overview the first one is very important, because it is the benchmark to
    which the other 3 are in comparison.  (The other 3 are in comparison to the
    benchmark of the first pamphlet.)

    Below find the links to download your own PDF file, in the event that the website
    is no longer available or temporarily off line.  You should really go to the
    inthissignyoushallconquer site, linked above, to get your pamphlets, as they
    may have new ones that are very useful.  I'm only uploading them here so as
    to serve as a backup in case of some inconvenience, DDOS attack or tragedy.
    Plus, a bit more exposure is always a good thing.



    IF YOU'RE GOING TO PRINT THESE BROCHURES,

    there is a READ ME page at the beginning of each file, that explains some of
    what you may like to know before printing.  So DON'T PRINT THE README page,
    as part of your pamphlet, because you might get error copies.  That is, you could
    get the README page on one side of a sheet and the cover/back (page 1 of 2) of
    the brochure on the back (inside fold).  And then who knows what could happen
    to page 2 of 2.  Your printer might put that on the next cover and then the
    README on the inside, and rotate with each page.  What a mess!  

    So only print page 1 of 2 on the front and page 2 of 2 on the back for your
    brochures, front and back sides of each sheet.

    Also, it mentions the format:  this is set up for 8-1/2" x 11" standard USA
    printing, but for international formats (various dimensions in different
    countries) you can CENTER the print and then trim the excess if you so desire.
    They don't explain it, but I think that's to make the FOLDING of your brochures
    come out okay, so the fold lines don't hit any of the text on say, the back side.

    The README page suggests using liquid ink and glossy paper for the best
    results.  But that's also the most expensive approach.  If you want to have
    a convincing presentation, it may be well worth the few extra pennies per page.


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    Two excellent brochures on Archbishop Lefebvre "Beyond the Grave"
    « Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 12:00:08 PM »
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  • Another brochure - now this makes a total of 7 (downloaded here on CI from there).

    From InThisSignYouShallConquer.com under PDF DOcuмENTS / Pamphlets ~ Union With Rome ~ Benedictines & Dominicans


    This one is from the Benedictines and the Dominicans.  This is so well written
    it makes one want to become a Benedictine, or a Dominican... how nice it is to
    have a choice!  We are blessed with an abundance of options!




    Go to THIS WEBSITE PAGE and click the "Here" button below the image, above.
    Then click the DOWNLOAD button on the upper right side of the brochure
    page.

    If that doesn't work for you, maybe the download button below will work.  
    It is a PDF file, so you need Adobe Reader, probably version 10, but maybe
    older will be okay.  I don't know for sure on that.  This seems to have some
    complexity that older versions may not support.



    This one begins quoting Scripture.  And the surprising thing is, you'll be
    familiar with these quotes, but have you ever thought about them in this
    context?  Probably not.  So it is rather shocking to see that what you have
    known all along has not been able to open your understanding.  This is the
    same thing that happened to the Jєωs at the time of Jesus.  He explained
    to them the meaning of Scripture in the present context, and the Scribes
    and Pharisees HATED him for doing that.  They wanted to believe that they
    held Scripture in the highest esteem, but now, they were being shown that
    they had to choose between following the Truth and the Life of his word,
    and abandoning their long-held esteem for Scripture.  And they didn't want
    either choice!  But some of them ended up choosing to abandon their
    esteem for Scripture because they most CERTAINLY didn't want to follow
    Our Lord's word!  

    This is the same choice that the Menzingen-denizens are faced with now, if
    they would read this brochure.  

    It's good stuff!  









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