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Offline RomanCatholic1953

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The School of Darkness
« on: February 11, 2016, 10:40:57 PM »
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  • A necessary online book needs to be added to the Library of CI.
    The School of Darkness by Dr. Bella Dodd. When she was a
    communist in the 1920's-1940's recruited communist young men
    to infiltrate the Catholic seminaries. These orders came from
    Moscow to all the communist parties throughout the world.
    Latter after her conversion to the Catholic Faith in the 1950's,
    she told Bishop Fulton Sheen that some of these recruits
    are in high positions in the church. She was told by Bishop
    Sheen not to revealed their names.

    http://genus.cogia.net/


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    « Reply #1 on: February 12, 2016, 01:49:10 PM »
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  • The online version I read made no mention of her part in sending Communists to seminaries. Does anyone know why that might have been left out, or by whom?
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #2 on: February 12, 2016, 02:53:01 PM »
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    The online version I read made no mention of her part in sending Communists to seminaries. Does anyone know why that might have been left out, or by whom?

    I had a friend who knew Bella Dodd and she assured me that when Dodd gave lectures all over America she would retell her story of how she had trained young communists preparing them to enter the seminary without revealing their background.  But there seems to be some kind of movement to overwrite Dodd's testimony by somehow blacklisting her message, claiming she never said those things, or even that it was all fabricated.

    You can test who might be in control of the smear campaign by going into Wikipedia and edit the page on Bella Dodd, then come back every 5 minutes to see how long it takes for your material to disappear.  I would guess 20 minutes, max, day or night.

    Also, there is a book AA-1029 Memoirs of an Anti-Apostle, which is a kind of diary written by one such seminarian, although he doesn't mention Dodd in his notes.  It was a manuscript kept in a briefcase held by a hospital patient who had carried it with him when he was admitted to the hospital, as I recall it was during WWII.  There was a nurse who was treating him (whose name is the author of the book), and he had assured her that this case was his own, including the contents, but he did not explain anything about it to her.  It was only after he had died that she went through the case and read some of the pages, and only then she realized that she wished she could have asked him some questions about it, but it was too late by then.  Later, she had the memoirs published, and there arose accusations of dishonesty against her, accusing her of making up the whole thing.  One has to wonder if that kind of accusation could only happen if there had been a lot of truth in the matter to begin with, and someone has a vested interest in trying to prevent the truth from getting out.
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    « Reply #3 on: February 12, 2016, 02:57:58 PM »
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    A necessary online book needs to be added to the Library of CI:  The School of Darkness by Dr. Bella Dodd.  When she was a communist in the 1920's-1940's recruited communist young men to infiltrate the Catholic seminaries. These orders came from Moscow to all the communist parties throughout the world.  

    Latter after her conversion to the Catholic Faith in the 1950's, she told Bishop Fulton Sheen that some of these recruits are in high positions in the church.  She was told by Bishop Sheen not to revealed [reveal] their names.

    http://genus.cogia.net/

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    « Reply #4 on: February 12, 2016, 05:58:08 PM »
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  • Well, the NO hierarchy might as well be Communist, given how many in it behave, so I don't doubt that it was infiltrated. Still, it seems strange that Dodd's book stopped short of saying so. And about AA-1025 - were there ever any speculations made on the identity of the priest, or missing person reports made that might have suggested who he was? Surely a priest doesn't just go missing with no investigation.         :sad:
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    « Reply #5 on: February 12, 2016, 06:01:27 PM »
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  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    A necessary online book needs to be added to the Library of CI.
    The School of Darkness by Dr. Bella Dodd. When she was a
    communist in the 1920's-1940's recruited communist young men
    to infiltrate the Catholic seminaries. These orders came from
    Moscow to all the communist parties throughout the world.
    Latter after her conversion to the Catholic Faith in the 1950's,
    she told Bishop Fulton Sheen that some of these recruits
    are in high positions in the church. She was told by Bishop
    Sheen not to revealed their names.

    http://genus.cogia.net/


    I published this there about 9 years ago!

    It's going strong, and it's on a free web hosting site.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 12, 2016, 07:53:46 PM »
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    A necessary online book needs to be added to the Library of CI.
    The School of Darkness by Dr. Bella Dodd. When she was a
    communist in the 1920's-1940's recruited communist young men
    to infiltrate the Catholic seminaries. These orders came from
    Moscow to all the communist parties throughout the world.
    Latter after her conversion to the Catholic Faith in the 1950's,
    she told Bishop Fulton Sheen that some of these recruits
    are in high positions in the church. She was told by Bishop
    Sheen not to revealed their names.

    http://genus.cogia.net/


    I published this there about 9 years ago!

    It's going strong, and it's on a free web hosting site.


    What about it McCork since you said that you published this online 9 years
    ago. Are you aware that the part of the communist infiltration into the
    seminaries were removed?
    When I have read about the part when Bella Dodd admitted to Bishop
    Sheen that she help send infiltrators into the seminaries in the 1930's  
    and told Bishop Sheen. This book is always footnoted.
    I even remember this book being quoted in speeches and sermons.
    Is this a tampered copy and changes made without you being aware?

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    « Reply #7 on: February 12, 2016, 09:42:08 PM »
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  • Hopefully someone with the actual book will tell us how it compares with the online versions.
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    « Reply #8 on: February 12, 2016, 10:18:29 PM »
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  • Listen to Bella Dodd herself tell how she infiltrated the Church and the U.S.




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    « Reply #9 on: February 13, 2016, 11:13:56 AM »
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  • Why didn't Bishop Sheen allow her to reveal the names?? If he was afraid of her murder (and his), they both should have been willing to die as martyrs.

    Is there any speculation as to their names?
    "But 'tis strange:
    And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
    The instruments of darkness tell us truths,
    Win us with honest trifles, to betray's
    In deepest consequence.." Banquo, from Shakespeare's Macbeth

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    « Reply #10 on: February 13, 2016, 04:11:55 PM »
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    A necessary online book needs to be added to the Library of CI.
    The School of Darkness by Dr. Bella Dodd. When she was a
    communist in the 1920's-1940's recruited communist young men
    to infiltrate the Catholic seminaries. These orders came from
    Moscow to all the communist parties throughout the world.
    Latter after her conversion to the Catholic Faith in the 1950's,
    she told Bishop Fulton Sheen that some of these recruits
    are in high positions in the church. She was told by Bishop
    Sheen not to revealed their names.

    http://genus.cogia.net/


    I published this there about 9 years ago!

    It's going strong, and it's on a free web hosting site.


    What about it McCork since you said that you published this online 9 years
    ago. Are you aware that the part of the communist infiltration into the
    seminaries were removed?
    When I have read about the part when Bella Dodd admitted to Bishop
    Sheen that she help send infiltrators into the seminaries in the 1930's  
    and told Bishop Sheen. This book is always footnoted.
    I even remember this book being quoted in speeches and sermons.
    Is this a tampered copy and changes made without you being aware?


    From what I know, that information about the seminaries was never included in this book. It was spoken to crowds when Bella Dodd would give talks, or testimony.


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    « Reply #11 on: February 13, 2016, 04:20:34 PM »
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    Well, the NO hierarchy might as well be Communist, given how many in it behave, so I don't doubt that it was infiltrated. Still, it seems strange that Dodd's book stopped short of saying so. And about AA-1025 - were there ever any speculations made on the identity of the priest, or missing person reports made that might have suggested who he was? Surely a priest doesn't just go missing with no investigation.         :sad:


    Yes, it is clear now the Church was infiltrated, but always give slack to Catholics who lived in the 60's when their heads were spinning with such an unprecedented and confusing turmoil.

    Dodd only knew things at a low level, not the details of the high-level, big picture.  She died in 1968.

    I have read AA-1025 and I don't believe at all it is genuine. It was supposed to be a diary of an anti-apostle, but the mindframe of the writing in the diary is NOT that of an anti-Catholic, but clearly a traditional-minded Catholic writing a novel.

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    « Reply #12 on: February 13, 2016, 04:25:59 PM »
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    Why didn't Bishop Sheen allow her to reveal the names?? If he was afraid of her murder (and his), they both should have been willing to die as martyrs.

    Is there any speculation as to their names?


    Bella Dodd, at the time she wrote the book, expressed how much she didn't want to hurt people she used to be friends with, but she did give a lot of hurtful testimony overall, just not pointing fingers to names. I think she was wise enough to know what happens when you do, from hearing of Whittaker Chambers, and, then later, Joe McCarthy.

    There is no such principle in Catholicism that one should desire to be an actual martyr, otherwise fellow religious of St. Isaac Jogues, for example, should have all rushed there, but the Church doesn't look down on those religious for not wanting to go to an almost certain martyrdom.