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The Jєωιѕн Peril in the Catholic Church
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2015, 02:25:04 PM »
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This reference comes from Fr Feeney's magazine Point {not linked to for fear of heresy}. He was a heretic but may have been telling the truth.


Please do some proper research so you will not be saying such false and foolish things.

The Jєωιѕн Peril in the Catholic Church
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2015, 02:52:23 PM »
Quote from: Patrick JK Gray

This reference comes from Fr Feeney's magazine Point {not linked to for fear of heresy}. He was a heretic but may have been telling the truth.


http://www.fatherfeeney.org/point/index.html

There!

And please stop referring to a good deceased priest who fought for the Faith as a heretic. Not even the Holy Office in its "condemnation" had such an audacity.

Fr. Feeney spoke the truth.


The Jєωιѕн Peril in the Catholic Church
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2015, 03:09:56 PM »
Thank you. I quite agree with you about the press, they are a pack of liars, and about Christian deaths during the War and the supplanting of Calvary.

In answer to your question, I've never studied the matter. I was raised thoroughly liberal and praised the wickedness of the Jews and Modernists. Needless to say I despised Bishop Williamson's position, and the whole of the Faith as 'intolerant' and lunatic.  When I converted, I had an early but insincere internet interest in the Resistance while still in the Novus Ordo (I was a vile hypocrite) which I abandoned and blackened Bishop Williamson again. I started to go to SSPX chapels, still loathing the good Bishop as an 'αnтι-ѕємιтє' a nαzι and so on, though I began to realise the evil of the modern world. More recently I repented of my hypocrisy and immorality and, thanking God, am trying to be a sincere Catholic. I realised that the Jews did indeed plot against Christianity and the Church.

I later started to read about the Resistance seriously (I wanted to know why it existed) and discovered Bishop Fellay's treason. Once the truth of the Jєωιѕн plot is realised, of course, the calumnies against the good Bishop redound to his honour. I thunk and thunk, as he would say, and realised he was a noble prelate and a charitable man, who held a view I long despised. So I thunk some more -- of course he was sincere, he seemed, too, to have firm grounds.

As far as I am concerned it is a matter of disputed secular history which the Jews have perverted to their wicked ends by making a blasphemous cult of their suffering. I would gladly accept any links (PM, this is not the best place for a discussion) to Catholic writers on the subject, or at least those with the approbation of His Lordship or a similar authority.

J. Paul and the other gentleman. Please forgive me. He was no heretic and I recant and abjure every remark accusing him of being a heretic, assuming I am correct in calling a heretic a man who knowingly corrupts the Faith. I threw mud around very wrongly. There was not a jot of malice, of wilful corruption, in his case. His zeal lead him into error. The rest of that issue of Point is excellent, it is a great pity that such an incisive mind which could have done great service fell into such a plain error. Baptism of blood or desire is 'of the faith'.

http://archives.sspx.org/miscellaneous/feeneyism/three_baptisms.htm
http://traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Information/Baptism_of_Desire.html

The Jєωιѕн Peril in the Catholic Church
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2015, 03:44:36 PM »
Quote from: Patrick JK Gray


J. Paul and the other gentleman. Please forgive me. He was no heretic and I recant and abjure every remark accusing him of being a heretic, assuming I am correct in calling a heretic a man who knowingly corrupts the Faith. I threw mud around very wrongly. There was not a jot of malice, of wilful corruption, in his case. His zeal lead him into error. The rest of that issue of Point is excellent, it is a great pity that such an incisive mind which could have done great service fell into such a plain error. Baptism of blood or desire is 'of the faith'.

http://archives.sspx.org/miscellaneous/feeneyism/three_baptisms.htm
http://traditionalcatholic.net/Tradition/Information/Baptism_of_Desire.html


That is just the SSPX side of the story, whose liberal theology on this subject is also shared and promoted by many sedevacantists such as the CMRI.


The following is our side of the story. Please feel free to read and draw your own conclusions:  

This is the only official "Feeneyite" website:

http://catholicism.org/

Father Feeney and Catholic doctrine

http://catholicism.org/feeney-doctrine.html


Other resources here:

Link to “The Bread of Life”:  http://store.catholicism.org/bread-of-life.html

Link to “The Gate of Heaven”:  http://store.catholicism.org/gate-of-heaven.html

Link to “The Loyolas and the Cabots”:  http://store.catholicism.org/the-loyolas-and-the-cabots.html

Apostolic Digest on EENS, by Michael Malone.


In this forum, there is also an entire sub-forum dedicated to the topic:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=forum&f=28

The Jєωιѕн Peril in the Catholic Church
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2015, 04:10:52 PM »
My deepest apologies to all concerned in this derailed thread. I have a weak and volatile nature prone to bolting anything down and wild swings of opinion.

I remain, deeply penitent, firmly beside my original assertion that Fr Feeney was a heretic for denying Baptism of Blood and of Desire which is the mind of the Church.
May God forgive me,

Patrick Gray