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Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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St. John Chrysostoms Eight Homilies Against the Jєωs
« on: March 28, 2013, 09:50:47 PM »
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  • A fitting time of year to read this:

    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/chrysostom-Jєωs6.asp
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #1 on: March 31, 2013, 02:59:45 PM »
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  • The truth. Period. Whatever the era. It's a bitter pill to swallow if your into a politically correct world belief. I personally think the opinion of a Doctor of the Church trumps modern theology anyday.
    Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!


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    St. John Chrysostoms Eight Homilies Against the Jєωs
    « Reply #2 on: March 31, 2013, 03:40:59 PM »
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  • and yet, someone down thumbed the great Doctor, without comment.  
    But heck, even Our Lord gets down thumbed by some when He is quoted.

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    St. John Chrysostoms Eight Homilies Against the Jєωs
    « Reply #3 on: March 31, 2013, 03:43:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: PerEvangelicaDicta
    and yet, someone down thumbed the great Doctor, without comment.  
    But heck, even Our Lord gets down thumbed by some when He is quoted.


    Unfortunately, there are people out there who are what one may call "Judaizers", people who are soft on Jєωs.

    They'd rather go by their own beliefs on Jєωs rather than listen to what a Doctor of the Church had to say.

    Oh well, the truth is there for those who want it!
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #4 on: March 31, 2013, 09:47:49 PM »
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  • It's modern theology, spread by the Zionists themselves, to be sympathetic of the Jєωs. Read ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. It's available onlinefree in pdf.  
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    « Reply #5 on: March 31, 2013, 09:50:55 PM »
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  • I find it especially amusing thinking about what the Doctors of the Church or the Apostles would think about the current state of ecuмenism in the Church? Let alone the Liturgy?
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    « Reply #6 on: March 31, 2013, 10:42:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
    A fitting time of year to read this:

    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/chrysostom-Jєωs6.asp


    Great SS- thanks! I hope I can find time to read them! So much to read!.... So little time!

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    « Reply #7 on: March 31, 2013, 10:44:41 PM »
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    I find it especially amusing thinking about what the Doctors of the Church or the Apostles would think about the current state of ecuмenism in the Church? Let alone the Liturgy?


    I really like that idea of what Christ and His Apostles  would think. How about their reaction to a Cardinal Bergoglio worshiping with the Jєωs not long before taking the white robes and becoming "bishop of Rome".


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    « Reply #8 on: March 31, 2013, 10:59:12 PM »
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  • They would label us heretics. Sad, but I think that's the truth.
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    « Reply #9 on: March 31, 2013, 11:13:51 PM »
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    They would label us heretics. Sad, but I think that's the truth.


    I'm sure you mean 'them'  :smirk:

    I'm reading it now and I thought this was great from St. Chrysostom:

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    "What could be more pitiable that those who provoke God not only by transgressing the Law but also by keeping it?"


    How true!!! I never thought about it that way!!!

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    « Reply #10 on: March 31, 2013, 11:23:28 PM »
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  • Sorry, but here's another gem:

    Quote from: St. Chrysostom speaking of the Jєω's false/unholy practice of fasting during/prior (?) feasts of Tabernacles
    (7) The man who fast should be properly restrained, contrite, humbled-not drunk with anger. But do you strike your fellow slaves? In Isaiah's day they quarreled and squabbled when they fasted; now when fast, they go in for excesses and the ultimate licentiousness, dancing with bare feet in the marketplace. The pretext is that they are fasting, but they act like men who are drunk. Hear how the prophet bit them to fast. "Sanctify a fast", he said. He did not say: "Make a parade of your fasting", but "call an assembly; gather together the ancients". But these Jєωs are gathering choruses of effeminates and a great rubbish heap of harlots; they drag into the ѕуηαgσgυє the whole theater, actors and all. For there is no difference between the theater and the ѕуηαgσgυє. I know that some suspect me of rashness because I said there is no difference between the theater and the ѕуηαgσgυє; but I suspect them of rashness if they do not think that this is so.


    The Saints have a way with words!!!

    I just realized this is in the library! Sorry last post!


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    « Reply #11 on: April 13, 2014, 10:52:38 AM »
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  • Jєωιѕн censorship has targeted Fordham University, thus, these Homilies are no longer at that site, but it appears you can find them here.

    http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/index.htm#Chrysostom_Against_the_Jєωs
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    « Reply #12 on: August 21, 2014, 11:19:10 PM »
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    Jєωιѕн censorship has targeted Fordham University, thus, these Homilies are no longer at that site, but it appears you can find them here.

    http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/index.htm#Chrysostom_Against_the_Jєωs



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    « Reply #13 on: August 22, 2014, 05:39:45 AM »
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  • Quote from: ascent
    Jєωιѕн censorship has targeted Fordham University, thus, these Homilies are no longer at that site, but it appears you can find them here.

    http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/index.htm#Chrysostom_Against_the_Jєωs


    The targeting was done only indirectly by the Jєωs; that is, via the weapons placed in all publishers' and authors' hands by the U.S. government's current absurd copyright laws, which effectively prevent the movement of published material into the public domain for as long as 125 years.

    The translations of the homilies (published in 1979) were picked up from what was termed "a Catholic anti-Semitic site." Paul Halsall, the professor who posted the sermons and many other ancient and medieval docuмents on his forum (hosted by Fordham University), pulled them down, he wrote, at the insistence of the copyright holder, Catholic University of America. Halsall denies knowing beforehand that the translations were under copyright (I have no cause to doubt his word).

    No one reading this thread or Halsall's posted materials, however, should be under any illusions: Halsall, Fordham, and Catholic University are equally contemptuous of Chrysostom and the other Fathers and of the "old," "anti-Semitic" Catholic faith that is still in need of cleansing to remove its remaining bigotry and hate. Indeed, Halsall voices his contempt in unmistakable terms: "These texts[,] to me, seem complete refutation, in and of themselves, for anyone who argues that the 'fathers' are any guide whatsoever to moral living." His primary reason for bemoaning his site's loss of the Chrysostom texts is that those who wish to read them will go to "anti-Semitic sites," from which readers will not get the kind of guided instruction in the "outdatedness" of Chrysostom and the other Fathers for hip contemporary post–Vatican II Catholics that Halsall's notes and comments provided.

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    « Reply #14 on: September 17, 2015, 07:40:40 PM »
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    Quote from: ascent
    Jєωιѕн censorship has targeted Fordham University, thus, these Homilies are no longer at that site, but it appears you can find them here.

    http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/index.htm#Chrysostom_Against_the_Jєωs


    The targeting was done only indirectly by the Jєωs; that is, via the weapons placed in all publishers' and authors' hands by the U.S. government's current absurd copyright laws, which effectively prevent the movement of published material into the public domain for as long as 125 years.

    The translations of the homilies (published in 1979) were picked up from what was termed "a Catholic anti-Semitic site." Paul Halsall, the professor who posted the sermons and many other ancient and medieval docuмents on his forum (hosted by Fordham University), pulled them down, he wrote, at the insistence of the copyright holder, Catholic University of America. Halsall denies knowing beforehand that the translations were under copyright (I have no cause to doubt his word).

    No one reading this thread or Halsall's posted materials, however, should be under any illusions: Halsall, Fordham, and Catholic University are equally contemptuous of Chrysostom and the other Fathers and of the "old," "anti-Semitic" Catholic faith that is still in need of cleansing to remove its remaining bigotry and hate. Indeed, Halsall voices his contempt in unmistakable terms: "These texts[,] to me, seem complete refutation, in and of themselves, for anyone who argues that the 'fathers' are any guide whatsoever to moral living." His primary reason for bemoaning his site's loss of the Chrysostom texts is that those who wish to read them will go to "anti-Semitic sites," from which readers will not get the kind of guided instruction in the "outdatedness" of Chrysostom and the other Fathers for hip contemporary post–Vatican II Catholics that Halsall's notes and comments provided.


    Great comment, claudel. Thanks for shedding light on that...
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)