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Author Topic: Sister Lucy, Un-edited Video, 1946, "REAL" Lucia de Jesus!, must watch @ 1:23  (Read 27619 times)

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I don't understand how they thought they could pull off a hoax such as this.

They certainly didn't foresee a future in which this information could be widely disseminated on devices that didn't even exist yet, over a network of information that didn't exist either, and have any number of people connecting the dots.  They also may not have foreseen a Church in such dysfunction, that people would ask the awkward questions and not be afraid to do so, rather than thinking "we cannot dare question anything that priests and bishops tell us is true".

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They certainly didn't foresee a future in which this information could be widely disseminated on devices that didn't even exist yet, over a network of information that didn't exist either, and have any number of people connecting the dots.  They also may not have foreseen a Church in such dysfunction, that people would ask the awkward questions and not be afraid to do so, rather than thinking "we cannot dare question anything that priests and bishops tell us is true".
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I think this is why they did it, actually. If they had foreseen the advent of computers and the internet and the other tools that have been used to debunk this hoax, I don't think they would have attempted it.

I don't think the new church would try something like that today.


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https://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2018/03/keep-reaching-mel-had-sister-lucy-died.html

March 2, 2018 at 10:27 PM
Here is an excerpt from letter written by Anne Cillis (RIP 2015) on the Sr Lucia controversy . Mrs Cillis was a genuine spiritual daughter and friend of Padre Pio and author of the book, "Arrividerci Padre Pio"

"I need also mention that this conclusion tends to confirm a statement made to me within the past six to eight months, by a prominent world-famous Catholic scientist, speaking to me from his home in London, England.
He told me, "Sister Lucy died years ago. The doctor taking care of her, was a close friend of mine. He told me that he had received a telephone call from the Carmelites at Coimbra , telling him that 'his services were no longer required'".
So, what has happened to the REAL Sister Lucy?..."

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Anne did much Catholic activity around the Ottawa region - Canada. I have no idea what time frame this statement was made, sorry...
Might have originated from TIA site.
Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us.

I would really, really like to hear some apologists of the "the Church would never tell us anything that is wrong" ilk (think Where Peter Is and similar) try to debunk all of this clear evidence, and explain why all of those who propose it are mistaken.  If nothing else, WPI types would say something like "Pope St John Paul the Great accepted her, and that's the end of the discussion".

There is no way those two women are the same person.  My big question is, if the "real" Sister Lucia died naturally, why not just say so?

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I would really, really like to hear some apologists of the "the Church would never tell us anything that is wrong" ilk (think Where Peter Is and similar) try to debunk all of this clear evidence, and explain why all of those who propose it are mistaken....

There is no way those two women are the same person.  My big question is, if the "real" Sister Lucia died naturally, why not just say so?
Lucy I, II, III , Getting more confusing every decade,

WARNING Don't click on the link just above this post,  where it says: Check out this blog in Spanish !!! BAD  Trojan Virus..

https://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2018/03/keep-reaching-mel-had-sister-lucy-died.html

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 Ultimostiempos.org (Last Times.org) said that the real Lucy died in 1949.  They don't say whether she died of natural causes or otherwise (at least, when I rapidly scanned the article, I didn't find any such assertion). 

   But they say that because it was known that the Third Secret should be revealed as soon as Lucy died, or in 1960, whichever came first, the masonic powers in the Vatican didn't want her death to become known. Otherwise there would have been a public outcry, demanding the release of the 3rd secret.  Ultimostiempos says that Pope Pius XII did not know about the substitution of a false Lucy for the deceased one, but that it was done by Secretary of State Montini behind the Pope's back.  Perhaps the Pope didn't even know of her death (?).  Therefore, they say, the interviews with Father Fuentes, was with the second, false Lucy.  But the fact that those interviews occurred enraged Montini and his co-conspirators, because it exposed the false Lucy somehow to discovery, so they immediately discredited and suppressed Fr. Fuentes and his writings.  Because they suspected some betrayal or other in the second Lucy, they installed a third Lucy in about 1958, and she is the one shown fawning over Paul VI and John Paul II in later videos and photographs.