Author Topic: Salvation (Read 2394 times)

MyrnaM · « **on:** August 13, 2013, 01:15:52 PM »

The Salvation of Those Outside the Catholic Church
by Rev. Fr. Noel Barbara

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Matto · « **Reply #1 on:** August 13, 2013, 01:19:22 PM »

Everyone knows there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church, so the title of your article is a heresy. People argue over how you can become members of the Church, some believing in BOD and some not, but all agree that there is no salvation outside of it. So your article has a horrible title.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #2 on:** August 13, 2013, 01:26:04 PM »

I did not write the Title, and I don't like the title either, but it is what it is, blame Noel Barbara if you need to blame someone for the Title. He wrote it.

Sometime people write things in such away to get attention of others, not saying I know his mind because I don't.

Marlelar · « **Reply #3 on:** August 13, 2013, 04:15:30 PM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

I did not write the Title, and I don't like the title either, but it is what it is, blame Noel Barbara if you need to blame someone for the Title. He wrote it.

Sometime people write things in such away to get attention of others, not saying I know his mind because I don't.

What date is this issue? Recent?

Marsha

MyrnaM · « **Reply #4 on:** August 13, 2013, 05:11:23 PM »

Marlelar, this is the article that was spoken about a few days ago here on this forum; this is the link http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26450&min=45&num=5

This is the conclusion of the article below:

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Ladislaus · « **Reply #5 on:** August 14, 2013, 08:58:03 AM »

Quote from: Matto

Everyone knows there is no salvation outside of the Catholic Church, so the title of your article is a heresy. People argue over how you can become members of the Church, some believing in BOD and some not, but all agree that there is no salvation outside of it. So your article has a horrible title.

Agreed. Whether one agrees with the theological conclusions in the article or not, the title must be considered a heretical formula. It's a word for word contradiction of defined Catholic dogma.

There is and cannot be any salvation outside the Church. Now, if one wants to define membership in the Church in a looser way, i.e. extend the boundaries of the Church, that's another matter, and I don't want to take it up here, since this is not the place for it.

... but I have to speak up and denounce the title of this article as heretical and impious. I have to condemn Father Barbara for the title of this article.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #6 on:** August 14, 2013, 09:47:05 AM »

The author of this article died in 1998, he has already been judged by God, and has answered for his title. I am not defending his title here, however having been in the advertising business, he might have thought this title would move non-catholics into reading his article, and if they read it, it would certainly give them food for thought. As I said, I am not defending what he did but trying to understand why he titled it that way.

If he titled it: No Salvation Outside the Church, I doubt even the Dimond bros. would have read it. Think about it, even Catholics would have been thinking ... another article about EENS, and just skip it. In fact if it had been titled any other way, it would have never even been brought up here in the first place on CathInfo., is my guess.

This is a good article, and if I were a non-Catholic in the Eyes of God, I would certainly think hard on this article. It also gives a history about Fr. Feeney which is also an eye opener.