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Offline jman123

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« on: February 17, 2014, 08:57:27 AM »
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    « Reply #1 on: February 12, 2015, 09:00:51 AM »
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  • Quote from: jman123 (Feb 17, 2014, 9:57 am)
        http://www.fatima.org/russian_sunrise/toc.asp

    Whatever was once at that Web-address is now completely gone!

    It might be the same content as what's now on a separate domain set up by the publisher of the book--a book that's certainly not free, and probably not even nearly so:

    Contents:
        http://www.russiansunrise.com/index.php?Itemid=6&id=3

    Prologue:
        http://www.russiansunrise.com/index.php?Itemid=4&id=1

    (As an experiment, this update does not display some apparently routine query-values in the Web-addresses above, to prevent screen-width expansion that's inconveniently excessive for some browsers.)

    An additional Web-address might be of interest to people who are willing to endure the inconvenience of browsing Web sites whose substantive material is (mostly) confined to PDF files (assuming this particular one is still there):
    "A Sunshine of Hope: Russian Sunrise and the Issues It Raises" by Suzanne Pearson.  THE FATIMA CRUSADER, iss. 101 (Spring 2012).
        http://www.fatimacrusader.com/cr101/cr101pg80.pdf


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    « Reply #2 on: February 13, 2015, 09:25:48 AM »
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  • I had trouble with all the fatimacrusader.com links, so searched their site and found this:   http://www.fatimacrusader.com/cr101/cr101pg24.pdf

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    « Reply #3 on: June 17, 2015, 11:14:46 AM »
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  • Please help me.
    I have never understood any of this.  

    Russia was a Christian Nation.
     It had both Orthodox and Catholics-Ukraine.
    Fatima was about Being consecrated the the immaculate heart of Mary. Orthodox never denied any such theology about Mary, though not formally.



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    "The Orthodox Church calls Mary all-holy, immaculate, free from actual sin. The Orthodox Church has never made any formal and definitive pronouncement on the matter of the Immaculate Conception.

    In the past, individual Orthodox theologians have made statements that, if not definitively affirming the Doctrine of Immaculate Conception, at any rate closely approach it.
    But since 1854, the great majority of Orthodox reject it as necessary; as implying a false understanding of original sin; as suspecting the doctrine because it seems to separate Mary from the rest of the descendants of Adam and Eve, putting her in a different class.
    However, if an individual Orthodox today felt impelled to believe it, he could not be termed a heretic for doing so."

    Bishop Kallistos is a Spaulding Lecturer of Eastern Christianity at Oxford University of England. He has not been "corrected" by his Patriarchs (presently, His Holiness Bartholomew), or the Holy Synod of the Patriarchate of Constantinople, for his words.
    Other Orthodox theologians have stated that the doctrine of Immaculate Conception might be an unrevealed mystery within the Church; that is, a "theologeuma". There has never been a definitive pronouncement by the seven original Ecuмenical Councils (the only ones Eastern Orthodoxy recognize as "Ecuмenical") declaring this long-known theology a heresy.




    They were and are in Schism.
    But this Schism is political and was. It was not theological.  
    Issues over leavening of bread (Risen in Christ as they believe)) and the interpretation of filoque is not theological, and compromises could surely be made.

    It is Russia today that is MORE Faith based that the Sodomite West. If they are Red, the USA is Pink.
    True, they allow abortion, but so do we, and theirs are more strict.
    I can give dozens of examples, but will stop here. I think much of this is a ruse, but i am open to all serious content concerning it.

    The revolution of USSR was Judaic and Masonic.
    It was prophecied, and planned long before it came to be.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 17, 2015, 03:02:41 PM »
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  • Podiakm

    If you want more information on this (Fatima, the Orthodox thoughts on it and their love for the Mother of God and their official teachings and doctrines on her) PM me.  I can't post my sources on this forum or my opinions on this matter as they are contrary to the positions held by most Traditional Catholics and possibly the owner of this forum.